Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Have I Got News for You episodes

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep DavidLeighEllis (talk) 20:42, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of Have I Got News for You episodes[edit]

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Article fails to meet guidelines in WP:EPISODE, WP:N and WP:IINFO. No sources for tables of information containing results of individual game show episodes. Article contents fall under WP:LISTCRUFT/WP:FANCRUFT, and entirety of tables featuring scores & results are unreferenced. Details contained within <ref> coding are merely anecdotes or details about episodes—not links to sources that provide verification of score data presented in tables.

This is not a series with fictional plot synopses that should be chronicled in an article, and the specific details of results from a game show episode do not meet WP:GNG. Results of an individual episode of a game show are seldomly notable, and rarely covered in any independent source except maybe on fansites. Information on individual game show episodes is sub-trivial and not instrumental to understanding the topic in the manner that fictional/dramatized TV series episodes are.

Game show episodes do not develop or advance the show in any way. Episodes that do stand out (introduction of a new game feature, special guest, etc.) are best noted in the main series article as part of its history.

Related deletion discussions of episode listings for game shows:

AldezD (talk) 13:08, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 20:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 20:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 20:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This list is how I know when episodes have aired and who was on them. If I want to watch an episode, I come here first to see if a new one has aired. If I want to watch an episode with a particular person as the host or on the panel, I check here to see which episode they were in. It's USEFUL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:0:89C0:27:1913:4FF9:46C9:EAE0 (talk • contribs)

Comment—Wikipedia is not a TV guide, and entirety of episode details within article is unsourced. AldezD (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep these are reasonable lists to have. Barney the barney barney (talk) 16:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—WP:USEFUL is not a valid argument against deletion. AldezD (talk) 12:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep For basically the same reasons that I gave at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of QI episodes. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 18:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as mentioned at the QI episodes discussion, HIGNFY isn't a game show, it's a comedy panel show where the makeup of the panels is a matter of interest - 8411 people in the last month thought so, anyway. To compare it to "Deal or No Deal" and so forth is rather misleading. Bob talk 21:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—Stating the number of times this article has been viewed over the past X number of days is not criteria that satisfies WP:GNG. The lists of score information and guests is entirely unsourced, and listing excessive statistics like this falls under WP:NOT#STATS and WP:LISTCRUFT. AldezD (talk) 12:28, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The nomination seems to misunderstand WP:EPISODE which, as a guideline, tries to encourage list pages of this sort, rather than having pages for individual episodes. In any case, the guidelines are subordinate to our policies which encourage us to preserve content by considering alternatives to deletion. The overall topic of HIGNFY is very notable - the show is now a British institution and is in its 45th season. Some detailed coverage of this long run is appropriate and, per WP:SIZE, we should expect some spinoffs for this. The rest is then a matter of ordinary editing, not deletion. Warden (talk) 16:48, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - could use better sourcing, but it pannel games and game shows are different things. Rankersbo (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.