Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Gogglebox episodes

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. While the Keep arguments might be weak, I see no support for deleting this article either. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:20, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Gogglebox episodes[edit]

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I don't believe this routine list of episodes is notable in its own right. --wooden superman 15:05, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Popular culture. --wooden superman 15:05, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per MOS:TVSPLIT, I think it is reasonable to have a separate article for a series with this many episodes. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What I mean is that we don't really need the list at all, it's not like there's a narrative running through the episodes, or any particular analysis on the episodes. This is WP:ROTM stuff not worthy of an encyclopedia. --wooden superman 16:16, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reality shows like this generally do have episode lists, even without a continuous narrative. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:07, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - it's very useful to be able to keep track of the different series and individual episodes, as there are so many of them. This page is a well organised and helpful resource, and I see absolutely no reason why it should be deleted. 173.95.86.243 (talk) 18:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:16, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Gogglebox (or delete outright): indiscriminate information without substantial sourcing. The summaries do not replicate the major facets of the series, which is about the individual/groups' reactions rather than the list of shows discussed (and indeed it would be impossible to summarise these reactions unless secondary sources exist describing recurring personalities/themes/tropes). The show is in the reality genre but the reason for or against a "List of episodes" page is more akin to a news/chat show/morning programme like The One Show. The information may be of interest to some but there are other websites for that (like Fandom). — Bilorv (talk) 16:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The list of shows discussed is a very helpful tool for the individual to easily and quickly ascertain whether or not they have watched each individual episode, and is in fact the only reasonable way to do so. 170.249.178.147 (talk) 06:27, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure it is, which is why you're welcome to create a Gogglebox Wiki on Fandom or host the material elsewhere that fans can see (giving attribution as required by our license). It's not a reason to host the material on Wikipedia. — Bilorv (talk) 12:31, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep That's a very popular TV show and very popular shows have their episode lists on Wikipedia, doesn’t matter if there is any plot ot not.
Ambiroz (talk) 07:46, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Very useful and the series is very popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.146.252.228 (talk) 10:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:26, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:10, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 00:23, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia's deletion policy states "If in doubt as to whether there is consensus to delete a page, administrators normally will not delete it."

Therefore I trust that in this case the page will not be deleted, as several different contributors have spoken in favour of keeping it. 173.95.86.243 (talk) 19:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus is based on policy. So far, no policy based arguments have been made. The argument that "it's popular, so it should have an episode page" is invalid. So are "It's useful", and "Well other articles do it". Industrial Insect (talk) 19:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So does your "I don't believe" fall into the same category. You don't believe this is notable, others believe it is. This isn't WP:ROTM. There's plenty of episode lists on Wikipedia and this isn't less notable than an average one. 188.146.248.59 (talk) 12:44, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's comment: Most of the "keep" !votes are little more than WP:OTHERSTUFF; WP:ILIKEIT; WP:USEFUL. --wooden superman 09:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.