Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of FM radio broadcast transmitters in the United Kingdom and Ireland

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The result was redirect‎ to List of transmission sites. Split between merge and delete. Redirect is a compromise - whether to merge anything from the history, preferably with sources, is now up to interested editors. Sandstein 10:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of FM radio broadcast transmitters in the United Kingdom and Ireland[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a directory and not the right place for this kind of list with no meaningful threshold for inclusion. This is also currently entirely unsourced, but that could hypothetically be remedied; the general issue of this being an unsuitable subject cannot. Actualcpscm (talk) 18:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and United Kingdom. Actualcpscm (talk) 18:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Not entirely sure there's a set standard on this. See Pohorje Transmitter and Metallic tower of Fourvière which has no sourcing whatsoever (it should, however). As far as style and structure, it seems to vary.— Maile (talk) 03:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
At least part of the nomination is incorrect - there are a finite number of RM radio broadcast transmitters in the UK and Ireland and the inclusion criteria is clearly all of them so the list is not indiscriminate and as they all need to be licensed it will be sourceable so that's not an issue. There exist also the worldwide List of transmission sites, various categories including Category:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom and the article Telecommunications towers in the United Kingdom, with which I think this could be usefully merged. If not though, keeping and improving would seem to be an option more consistent with WP:CLN than deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 08:20, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This page has been carefully written and checked information is correct before posting same applys for the frequency table. There are many pages like this on Wikipedia where some dont have enough information that it needs and have been on this site a few years now. Also i would like to point out this article has only been on here a few days so cant expect it to be perfect straight away. It will get improved as time goes on. So i think the article being nominated for deletion is not necessary. HamRadioMan (talk) 17:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge into List of transmission sites. The citation of WP:NOTDIRECTORY seems to miss the purpose of that guideline. Given that the other lists mentioned that serve a very similar purpose (Category:Transmitter sites in the United Kingdom, Telecommunications towers in the United Kingdom), have appeared to stand without challenge, the only problem I see with this article is that it lacks significant contextual information, which can be edited in over time. In my estimation, this article is an example of WP:CSC criterion "Short, complete lists..." Agentdoge (talk) 20:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The list is far from complete, it appears to be one person's list of a seemingly random set of transmitter sites in Ireland, North West England and Essex, and even if it were to be completed, the WP:NOTDIR argument applies here. The article contains a number of inaccuracies and confuses "transmitters" with "stations", for instance in the entries for BBC Radio 2, 3 etc. Per FM Scan there are over 2,100 FM broadcast transmitters in the United Kingdom and over 400 in Ireland, and they are mostly simple non-notable pieces of public infrastructure. This article is very poor quality and unnecessary when directories of transmission infrastructure such as the aforementioned FM Scan and MB21 exist. Flip Format (talk) 09:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This has the potential to be a good article, which is why I am not in favour of its deletion. However, for it to remain, it needs to be modified, possibly to include only major transmitters, probably those which are notable enough to have their own article on Wikipedia. As it stands, this article does not pass the threshold for more than one reason, not least due to its randomness. It also currently contains some errors, which I would look to correct if the article is not deleted. I have now included some independent references.Rillington (talk) 00:36, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 19:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:27, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. — Karnataka ^talk 08:40, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Simple case of WP:NOTDIR and the transmitter sites are not notable, certainly not because any geographic feature has an FM transmitter. Ajf773 (talk) 10:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect to List of transmission sites as a satisfying ATD. Otherwise keep per NLIST. —siro χ o 17:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.