Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Catholic Actors/Actresses

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The result was delete. NW (Talk) 05:35, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Catholic Actors/Actresses[edit]

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Non-notable intersection. An actor's religion rarely has a significant impact on his work, and exceptions (eg, Mel Gibson) can be (and routinely are) noted in their respective biographies. There's no need to mix the few cases where Catholicism is relevant to an actor's career with the many where it is not. Biruitorul ^Talk 19:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not convinced there is a need for this list. Location (talk) 02:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:47, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:47, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - WP:LIST is pretty lenient on lists, provided that there's some potential value in the taxonomy they employ. Catholic Actors is not such a strange intersection that it wouldn't be of value to someone researching, say, a history of Catholocism in western cinema, or somesuch. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- But can you give even one example of an actor being influenced in his work by his Catholicism? For directors, that's easy: Martin Scorsese (Mean Streets), Alfred Hitchcock (I Confess), Mel Gibson as director (The Passion of the Christ), Jerzy Kawalerowicz (Mother Joan of the Angels), etc. But actors? And as pointed out below, most every Irish, Spanish, Polish, Filipino, Italian, Mexican actor would have to appear here. - Biruitorul ^Talk 14:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Trivial intersection. About 25% of Americans are Roman Catholics. In other Western countries it is more or less. This list could include thousands of people. Also "Catholic" is not defined. Mel Gibson, for instance is not a member of the Roman Catholic Church - the most common meaning of the word. Northwestgnome (talk) 04:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per above, though the 25% figure quoted sounds grossly inflated to me. D. J. Cartwright (talk) 04:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we have an article on the subject, and here's an external source (see page 5). Frank | talk 13:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this list would be too unmanageable, I fear. I mean, how does one define "Catholic". Pretty much every actor in Spain would technically be a "Catholic" and will have been christened in the Catholic church, but very few would actually believe in Catholicism or even God. So how does one define "Catholic"? And furthermore, the list would be too long and to be honest, pretty pointless. So I vote "delete".Tris2000 (talk) 11:51, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for a variety of the reasons cited above (including indiscriminate list, unsourced, trivial intersection and the number of names that could be included), but the main one being that a person's religion generally has nothing whatsoever to do with their occupation. There are a few actors of the Roman Catholic faith who have made reference to their faith in conjunction with their acting (Ray Romano, Mel Gibson, Don Novello, etc.), and that would be similar to, say, a list of Jewish comedians. On the other hand, this is essentially a "List of actors/actresses who happen to be Catholic", which would be more analogous to a "List of Jewish optometrists". Mandsford (talk) 16:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per above. Plus, you can pretty much bet that if you are an actor and you come from Ireland then you are Catholic. (Quentin X (talk) 12:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

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