Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 2006 Hot Wheels

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. W.marsh 17:31, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of 2006 Hot Wheels[edit]

Advertisment and listcruft. I don't see why Wikikpedia needs such a list. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate colelction of information. Delete Ter e nc e Ong (恭喜发财) 08:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No vote right now, but is this copied from somewhere? The vast majority of this thing was made in one edit. Grandmasterka 09:05, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is a perfectly fine list, plenty of precedent exists for lists of things with "limited" interest. I think it's fine. Grandmasterka 11:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A list is not an article. VirtualSteve 12:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Hot Wheels has a list of notable models with more information. This one will never be wikified or expanded upon and is basically some sort of source information. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, WP:NOT. PJM 12:27, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I don't see this list violating any of things it says on WP:NOT. This list is not "Lists or repositories of loosely associated topics" as mentioned on WP:NOT. It is closely associated with the main topic of Hot Wheels. I see this list as being no different than each of the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Booster Packs which lists every single card in each booster. This list just states the entire lineup of cars for one year. - Ultrabasurero
Keep At the very least, this is of interest to toy collectors and auto enthusiasts. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unencyclopaedic. Just becuase there are unencyclopaedic Yu gi oh articles doesnt mean more is a good idea. ::Supergolden:: 16:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Can someone please explain why this would be considered "unencyclopedic"? Ultrabasurero

- I've read "What Wikipedia is Not" around 3-4 times now, and still find nothing that would allow its deletion. Ultrabasurero

Strong Keep but rename to List of 2006 Hot Wheels die cast cars as better use of the trademarked term "Hot Wheels". This list does not violate the "What Wikipedia is Not". Just because such high-brow items such as List of Hitchcock cameo appearances and the various List of people on stamps of fill in the blank are considered encyclopedic does not make lists of items of interest to the toy collector/hobbyist as opposed to the movie buff or philatelist unencyclopedic. This list is not indiscrimate per the nom. It is pretty definite and defined. The criticism that it will never be 'wikified' or expanded upon is a prediction of the future that given the debate here seems unlikely; if I'm wrong nominate it again after a period, but remember that not every list is dynamic: some lists are all that will ever occur about the subject (e.g., List of Hitchcock cameo appearances and there won't be any more of them). The concern about all the data coming in at one fell swoop is not surprising and doesn't sugges copyvio; collectors of Hot Wheels (or nearly anything else these days) maintain lists of the available items that may be added to their collections and check (British: tick) them off once acquired. And last, this is not advertising any more than Hitchcock's movies or the Post Office is being advertised by the other approved lists. I have a remaining concern which may show that this will be a maintained list: are these the planned hot wheels cars, or have all these been issued. If that's so, this list might be better to be made into a table, with the planned cars and a check box on whether their appearance has been verified. And to anticipate those critics who complain that "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball", as you cast your stones on that account, please first delete all references to the expected return of Comet Halley, etc. Carlossuarez46 21:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you for strongly explaining my plight. Ultrabasurero 22:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a list of interest to very few people, i.e. listcruft. Stifle 18:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it is not of any interest to you, does not mean it is of interest to very few people. There's a reason why Hot Wheels are consistently the #1 selling toy by volume. Ultrabasurero 22:00, 8 February

Comment, interest to very few people? what about List of Alfalfa Club members, List of Airwolf episodes, List of Airbus A320 operators, List of Allied warships that served at Gallipoli, List of Ainu terms, etc. just a quick perusal of the early section of 'A' lists... c'mon, the threshhold is pretty low and Hot Wheels cars seem to have a notable following. 4,700,000 google hits for "Hot Wheels" and somewhere north of 50,000 items on ebay [[1]]. Not necessarily high-brow, but either is a list of airlines by which planes they fly or a club, regardless of how distinguished its members may be, whose only function is a birthday party for a dead confederate general. Lists of basically trivia are the norm here and singling out one set of collectors or hobbyists over another is unfair. Carlossuarez46 21:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.