Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lillian Knight

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 02:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lillian Knight[edit]

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I see no evidence that any of Knight's roles were signifcant roles in notable productions. IMDb is not a reliable source, especially not for showing that someone is notable. It aims to be comprehensive, while Wikipedia expects actual notability. This article is an example of the sub-standard articles we got before we started having notability gudelines as it dates back 14 years to 2006. A search for additional sources turned up nothing. John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete~~ (struck out for now due to developments below) per WP:BASIC since I cannot find multiple reliable sources with significant coverage about the figure. Furthermore, it may be that there are two Lillian Knights whose filmographies are mixed together. AFI shows only Stage Madness. The only reliable source I found with signicant coverage was the book Mack Sennett's Fun Factory which has an entry for her:

"Lillian Knight – 'Miss Los Angeles' in 1924 – was a Sennett girl and leading lady in comedies of 1924-1925 and appeared in the 1927 Fox feature Stage Madness. There was a different actress by the same name in the 1910s."

I would support having a footnote at Stage Madness covering her brief background. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 18:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If there are two Lillian Knights conflated in one IMDb profile and one Wikipedia article, it would be helpful for people to refrain from voting for a moment while I and any other interested parties flesh it out. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 18:53, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Sennett info and striking your comment for now. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 22:09, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment She performed in the Buffalo Bill act and was a silent film actress. I'm fleshing it out now. I'm finding more about her under her birth name and her name at time of death. Did no one search for her under her birthname? It's on IMDb. Some information appears in this book, though I can't view much of it, it looks like it's an article about her. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 18:49, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The films identified as hers in her obituary are billed on IMDb as Lillian Christy -- who has no LoC record and no dates. I will continue to research and include this... fourth name and ??? person. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 21:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not done yet by any means... but it appears that the vital facts and photo are on person and the filmography from before I looked into it are likely at least one other person. Next I will look into who that person was, and make sure that is just one person. The obituaries for this person suggest she does indeed pass the general notability guideline. Perhaps another article on the other Lillian Knight is in order as well. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 22:07, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Performer with various wild west shows who was a western star in the early days of film. Passes WP:GNG. A source would have been found had a thorough WP:BEFORE including her birthname been performed, but HEY. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 22:07, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per DiamondRemley.† Encyclopædius 07:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep after great work by DiamondRemley39. PamD 10:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per expansion and points made by DiamondRemley39 Scanlan (talk) 13:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: As per WP:HEY. Great work yet again by DiamondRemley39. Dflaw4 (talk) 23:40, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as reliable sources have been found and added to the article so that WP:BASIC is passed, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:14, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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