Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Li (state)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is a clear consensus that the article can not exist independently and needs to be either deleted, redirected, or merged into a DAB. There is no consensus on what actually should happen to it, with some prevalence for delete. Since there are doubts that the state ever existed, and there are no sources proving the opposite, deleting is the safest option.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Li (state)[edit]

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This article has no citations, and it is unclear if it is recounting legend or actual fact. Searching for supporting evidence is coming up with nothing (a problem which is compounded by "Li" being a common surname, which may be obscuring legitimate results) BirdbrainedPhoenix (talk) 02:43, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. —Mike moral ♪♫ 02:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. —Mike moral ♪♫ 02:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support: This needs to be taken to articles for creation, beaten into shape and brought back. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 03:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There's no clear scope and there's none to built on or verify. I've tried to search for literature, but I can't confirm the topic (actually topics, since it seems a mix-and-match of two things). The competence of the creator has been raised after the user made a mess at the articles relating to the "Li" surname. --Cold Season (talk) 13:23, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Li, as there were two states with this name, this title should only ever be a disambiguation page. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 07:51, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But is there any evidence that there were any states with this name? Phil Bridger (talk) 08:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Our Chinese competitor seems to think so — Baike: 黎国 ; 厉国 -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 08:08, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As does our other competitor, Baidu Baike: 黎国 -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 10:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 05:45, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to a dab page. We have no content here. Since both states were county sized (or smaller) they can hardly be significant. I suspect that the right place to deal with each of them would be in a history section of an article on the county. A dab-page could direct there. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:59, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unverifiable because no references. I'd support the dab approach above if reliable sources for the existence of these states exist. Sandstein 12:44, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.