Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Letitia Mumford Geer

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The result was delete. No consensus for merging or redirecting, but that can be done by anyone as an edit subject to BRD. $Salvio$ 14:15, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Letitia Mumford Geer[edit]

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Conpletely non-notable. Qwirkle (talk) 16:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. [1] is all I could find. It looks quasi-reliable, but I'm not prepared to vote either way based on it. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:53, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the sourcing is not even close to establishing notability. Receiving a patent is not in any way, shape, means or form a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom & Johnpacklambert. 0qd (talk) 19:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Nika2020 (talk) 21:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. Deathlibrarian (talk) 01:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: she crops up in quite a few listings of "things you didn't know were invented by women", though sometimes credited with inventing the medical syringe in entirety. I can't access this one from UK but the Google hits record shows: " In 1899, Letitia Greer (1852-1935) invented a medical syringe that ... Greer was a registered nurse, and it took 13 years for her patent to be ...", which sounds promising.Even if we don't have a lot of info, the very fact, solidly sourced, that she patented a valuable refinement, rather than the whole thing, will be useful info for readers who follow her up from one of the over-enthusiastic pieces about her. PamD 13:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are suggesting that we source articles to gee-whiz lists that are obviously wrong on many, perhaps most, of their contentions? (And, worst of all, from some perspectives, you are suggesting that we use sources that are obviously wiki-circular?)

Next, there is absolutely no evidence that she invented “a valuable refinement”. Her invention...or, rather, repurposing, is just one of many ways to make a single-handed enema syringe. It isn’t used now, and it may have never been.

Your third source is a high school science teacher, writing in a small local paper, or a blog associated with it, who appears to believe that insulin is normally delivered rectally. That doesn’t exactly reek of authority. Here’s an excerpt from one of the “sources” used: “It is said that once in 1882, Maria Beasely took a look out at the sea from her room’s window and said, “People should, like, stop dying in huge transportation disasters.” She was a famous scientist of her times, and is the woman behind the creation of Lift Raft, a machine that makes barrels. Due to this creation, she earned a lot of money and became a millionaire in shorter timeframe.“ Yeah, that’s scholarship. Qwirkle (talk) 12:25, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Or failing that, redirect to Syringe#Historical_timeline and add her invention there, well sourced, with dates etc. and allowing redirects, surname page entry, to continue. PamD 13:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Syringe#Historical_timeline. Doesn't seem notable enough to warrant a standalone article, but still contains potentially helpful information. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:03, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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