Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lenore Montanaro

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lenore Montanaro[edit]

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Does not reach the notability standard; WP:GNG. I found no widespread evidence of significant coverage by WP:RS. Most sources are primary, with a direct connection to the subject, or exclusively local. GuardianH (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women, Poetry, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:01, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: While searching on Wikidata, I couldn't find any viaf associated with this person. Weird for a writer. It's like she never plublished something. Don't seem to have ennough evidence to establish her notability. --Fralambert (talk) 20:17, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This person is clearly an academic writer and is thus notable per Wiki's guidelines about notable persons. I found several pieces of her publications online, like here: https://repository.law.uic.edu/lawreview/vol55/iss1/1/. She is also acknowledged in many independent secondary sources. She has received "a well-known and significant award or honor" and is "notably influential in the world" of animal law. This person also played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work: https://www.eli.org/sites/default/files/book_pdfs/00_animal_law_2nd_ed_front_matter_0.pdf. She is also an amputee lawyer and academic professor: https://cranstononline.com/stories/sa-montanaro,113347.

See this too: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/tort_trial_insurance_practice/publications/tortsource/2020/winter/valuation-companion-animals/?login. The guidelines for notability do not require a viaf and many writers do not have a viaf. We should keep this person, especially because she is the only leg amputee to graduate from the College of the Holy Cross: https://patch.com/rhode-island/northkingstown/challenge-accepted Literaturelife856 (talk) 21:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC) — Literaturelife856 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

@Literaturelife856 This is a non-sequitur, but the image you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons was removed as a copyvio violation. The image is the same one used on Montanaro's Linkedin page, yet you labeled it as your own work... If you have a close connection with the subject a relevant policy to look at is WP:Conflict of interest, where you need to declare your connection to the subject if you have one. GuardianH (talk) 01:02, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Citations fail to show notability, any reliable sources are WP:MILL. Created by and heavily edited by a WP:SPA. - Skipple ☎ 20:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Which citations fail to show notability? I think that this person is notable. This person is an academic professor, top animal welfare lawyer, writer, and only leg amputee to graduate from the College of the Holy Cross. We should not delete this disabled lawyer. We can fix citations, but the article should not be deleted entirely.

https://law.rwu.edu/faculty/lenore-montanaro

https://www.animallawconference.org/lenore-montanaro/

https://www.lawline.com/lawyer/lenore-m-montanaro

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/tort_trial_insurance_practice/publications/tortsource/2020/winter/

https://repository.law.uic.edu/lawreview/vol55/iss1/1/

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/international_law_news/iln-v48-no4.pdf Literaturelife856 (talk) 21:54, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

She needs widespread coverage in reliable sources — not just passing mentions. She has written journal articles, but it doesn't seem that she has projected an influence over the field as a whole (i.e. Steven M. Wise) and her authorship of a few articles is relatively common. Doesn't seem she meets any aspect of WP:ACADEMIC at all from the sources provided. GuardianH (talk) 00:48, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I think my mother is notable, but that doesn't mean she is to anyone else other than me. I would recommend reviewing WP:GNG. Notability is established by having significant, in-depth coverage by third party, independent, and reliable sources. Everything you have stated makes her sound like a lovely person, but not particularly notable. - Skipple ☎ 04:05, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Beccaynr (talk) 19:38, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Based on sources in the article and my own search, including at the Wikipedia Library, it seems too soon for notability to be sufficiently supported by independent, reliable, and secondary coverage according to the WP:BASIC or WP:AUTHOR guidelines, and similarly, her academic career does not yet appear to have sufficient support according to the WP:NPROF guideline. There is coverage of her early life and education in e.g. Jan 2012 and her poetry in Nov 2012, [1], but I have not found reviews or other secondary coverage of her writing, or substantial secondary coverage of her work as an attorney. The article states she is a fellow of the American Bar Foundation, but this does not appear sufficient to support WP:NPROF#3 (an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association) according to the Foundation bylaws. Beccaynr (talk) 02:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:TOOSOON; literary career has not received documented independent coverage. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 02:51, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Maliner (talk) 15:47, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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