Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Van Corteza

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep.--Kchase T 17:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Van Corteza[edit]

Speedy deletion contested at WP:DRV and brought here for consideration. Procedural listing, so I have no opinion. ~ trialsanderrors 18:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Meets WP:BIO by playing at the highest level in his sport as evidenced by his participation in world championships. -- Whpq 19:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep - Participation in World Pool Championships (e.g. last 32 in 2003). No idea why this was ever a speedy. - fchd 20:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the person won $2500 in all of 2005, he isn't a professional, and therefore fails WP:BIO. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I fail to see how the amount of money he earns is a factor. WP:BIO does not specify a minimum income to meet notability guidelines. And in just googling through google news, there's lots of articles about him such as this and this which would seem to indicate multiple independent coverage. -- Whpq 21:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - $2500 may not be "professional" enough for some people, but in the Philippines it's a big sum of money; not many Filipinos can earn that much money in less than a year, even more so in a month or even a day (just as Lee Van did in this contest). --- Tito Pao 13:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - joining professional international pool events makes a player considered professional. the last of which, was the 2006 World Pool Championships.--RebSkii 20:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - Several participations at the highest level in his sport, even reaching top 32. Also winning several gold and other medals at big sports events. The amount of money he earns in a specific year is not a factor on WP:BIO which he meets in more than one guidelines. SportsAddicted | discuss 22:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. Please see the references I added, the latter establishing that Corteza is ranked in the 188th slot in world standings by the international governing body of billiards. Meets WP:BIO. Specifically, the standard for "Sportspeople/athletes/competitors," as well as being a person who has been "the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person," considering both the references in the article and multiple Filipino newpspaper articles found through Google news.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The first speedy deletion was probably warranted, the second one wasn't. The person seems to meet the notability guidelines, so keep. - Mike Rosoft 09:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Gold medalist at the Southeast Asian Games. --Howard the Duck 13:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has beed added to Philippine notice board. --Howard the Duck 13:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above. Also, the SEA games is a major sporting event in Southeast Asia, much as the Commonwealth games are for members of the British Commonwealth. --- Tito Pao 13:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Participated in amateur and professional international events. RebSkii 20:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.