Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Sheldon (writer)
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:23, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Lee Sheldon (writer)[edit]
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No sources in the article since 2017 at least, and my online search could only find first-person sources (inc interviews, biographies) rather than independent secondary sources Cardiffbear88 (talk) 22:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete the article has no reliable sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - No vote yet. I'll be honest and state right off that I don't know much about online gaming, although I went to a gaming law seminar this week and am trying to learn more. I found three possible sources online: 1, 2, and 3. Do they help? Bearian (talk) 16:31, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- KEEP Easily passes WP:ENTERTAINER for having a notable part in a notable production. He was the writer of Remember Me (Star Trek: The Next Generation) and other notable things. Primary sources in the credits of these things are sufficient for things like this. Dream Focus 05:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Dream Focus - however WP:ENTERTAINER says clearly at the top under Basic Criteria that “People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources...Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject.” Therefore this subject fails WP:ENTERTAINER. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 23:33, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- That refers to people talking about themselves. Nothing against primary sources of the entertainment media credits since there is no reason to doubt that information as valid. Anyway: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. is met. They can be notable if they meet the BASIC GNG criteria OR if they meet a subject specific guideline listed below that. Dream Focus 23:53, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Dream Focus it also says about additional criteria such as this that “meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.” In any case, he is a scriptwriter and not an actor and so falls under WP:AUTHOR which says that “The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series). As writer on one episode, he fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:ENTERTAINER. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 18:36, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Publishers Weekly [1] reviewed one of his books. Tagging this for Rescue assistance to see what else can be found. Dream Focus 19:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Dream Focus it also says about additional criteria such as this that “meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.” In any case, he is a scriptwriter and not an actor and so falls under WP:AUTHOR which says that “The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series). As writer on one episode, he fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:ENTERTAINER. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 18:36, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- That refers to people talking about themselves. Nothing against primary sources of the entertainment media credits since there is no reason to doubt that information as valid. Anyway: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. is met. They can be notable if they meet the BASIC GNG criteria OR if they meet a subject specific guideline listed below that. Dream Focus 23:53, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Dream Focus - however WP:ENTERTAINER says clearly at the top under Basic Criteria that “People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources...Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject.” Therefore this subject fails WP:ENTERTAINER. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 23:33, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Dream Focus 19:14, 7 February 2020 (UTC) t
- Keep he gets quoted as an authority in the book: Visual Storytelling: Videography and Post Production in the Digital Age. He wrote quite a few Television screenplays, including Charlie's Angels. He is also a Computer Science professor at Worcester Polytechnic Institute but may not pass WP:PROF. Has also written 3 books one is an Amazon Bestselling book The Multiplayer Classroom: Designing Coursework as a Game (2011) perhaps WP:AUTHOR. Lightburst (talk) 16:01, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete insufficient sources demonstrated to pass WP:ANYBIO Chetsford (talk) 02:01, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep - For the TV side, he wrote one episode of ST:TNG, but also produced 8 episodes. For The Edge of Night, he was head writer and executive story editor and worked on 51 episodes. Had 3 notable nominations. StrayBolt (talk) 23:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Clearly notable. The career section says it all. Just take a look at the first paragraph: His television credits as a scriptwriter include Charlie's Angels, Quincy, M.E., Cagney & Lacey, The Edge of Night (Head Writer), Snoops, Another World, and Star Trek: The Next Generation (ST:TNG). He was nominated for two Edgar Awards from the Mystery Writers of America and a Writers Guild of America award. Clearly encyclopedic and notable. Ambrosiawater (talk) 20:20, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Per Dream Focus and Ambrosiawater. — Hunter Kahn 20:45, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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