Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lauren Briggs (footballer)

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:37, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lauren Briggs (footballer)[edit]

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Briggs has never played a professional game (see here) as Durham have never been in the FA Women's Super League although they have come close on a couple of occasions. A quick WP:BEFORE shows that there isn't a great deal of independent coverage for Briggs and that the creator has done their best with the limited coverage available. As per my source analysis below, I don't think that the coverage is enough for WP:GNG. She does not currently meet either criterion under WP:NFOOTBALL either. Only WP:ATD would be to draftify until her WSL debut, however, there is no guarantee that Durham will get promoted or that she will transfer to a professional team so, in my view, deletion is better for now. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:14, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:14, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Source analysis - please let me know if any issues. Fails WP:GNG. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:28, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After having read WP:NFOOTBALL and as the one who accepted Lauren Briggs at the AfD I also agree to delete or at least to draftify the article. I only checked whether there are other team members with a Wikipedia article in the team but not if it was second or first tier in which the other players have played. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 09:59, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Objections — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krellan456 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I object to this deletion on the grounds that Durham are as of last seasons standings the 14th club in England and Briggs has played over 70 times for the club. She has played in quarter finals of the league cup which is a major trophy in England. I think her consistent appearances over the years for the club warrant a Wikipedia page.WOFOeditor325

The only relevant guidelines are WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. It doesn't matter how many games Briggs has played, if she hasn't had significant coverage from independent WP:RS then there shouldn't be an article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen many similar and lower level players have dedicated pages created. I agree with the first instance and the objection that L Briggs is a worthy addition to the women's football wiki and should not be deleted User:Krellan456

That would be down to a separate AfD about them - you are more than welcome to put those lower level players up for deletion if you find any. Either those footballers meet WP:GNG or they simply haven't been noticed. In any case, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid reason for keeping an article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/19539272.lauren-briggs-reflects-development-durham-women/			~ The article is mostly one long quote from Briggs herself. The article contains very little information or analysis relating to Briggs. The 4th and 5th paragraphs contain small bits of info on her.	~ Partial
http://www.esfa.co.uk/news/?2011/03/23/204216/u16-girls-county-final-durham-3-2-kent			Squad list mention - U16 game	✘ No
https://durhamwfc.co.uk/player-statistics/	This is her club		Stats only, no prose	✘ No
https://durhamwfc.co.uk/2021/06/27/news-briggs-here-to-stay/	Her club		Routine club announcement with a long quote from Briggs	✘ No
https://womenscompetitions.thefa.com/en/Article/Championship-wrap-212908			Passing match report mention	✘ No
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/19549201.watford-fc-women-beaten-durham/			Match report mentions	✘ No
https://womenscompetitions.thefa.com/en/Article/durham-coventry-20210502			Squad list	✘ No
https://durhamwfc.co.uk/player-statistics/	Her club		Stats	✘ No
https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2021/10/10/22715455/match-preview-sunderland-ladies-host-durham-women-in-north-east-derby		Sunderland fan site	Contains two sentences about her playing style but nothing more	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:28, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 11:57, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – per reasons mentioned above and GiantSnowmanParadise Chronicle (talk) 12:29, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no professional games, so fails WP:NFOOTBALL and not otherwise WP:NOTE. Sorry Lauren. Chumpih. (talk) 12:04, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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