Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Land Down Under (film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. PhilKnight (talk) 17:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Land Down Under (film)[edit]

Speculative movie title. The article's single source does not indicate the title of movie project. Starczamora (talk) 01:37, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

also nominating Land Down Under as this is a fork of the original article. --bluemask ^(talk) 06:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:45, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand the one source currently in this article. It seems to be half English and half Filipino, though the caption and title (both in English only) don't mention a title. I see apparent mentions of this film at the end of these articles, but no reference to "Land Down Under". Instead the first article refers to Australia as a possible title and indicates shooting has started. The notability guideline regarding future films says the start of principal photography, not shooting is the key consideration in determining notability. I'm not clear on that. If somebody can find more sources, I'd favor moving to Australia (Piolo film), but I'm still not sure about deletion.--chaser - t 02:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The source I provide indicated about the film at the end of the article, as such:

Inihayag na rin Angel sa PEP (Philippine Entertainment Portal) na right after ng Lobo ay magsisimula na sila ni Piolo ng kanilang first movie together sa Star Cinema. Excited na, ngayon pa lang, si Angel lalo na nang malaman niyang sa Australia sila magsu-shoot ng movie nila ni Piolo.

So far, 'yon pa lang ang ibinigay na detalye ni Angel tungkol sa pelikula nila ni Piolo. Hindi pa raw puwedeng sabihin ang title, plot, at pati kung sino ang magiging direktor nila. Sa ngayon, naka-focus muna sila ni Piolo sa taping ng mga susunod pang episodes ng Lobo.

This translates as:

Angel (Locsin) has announced in Philippine Entertainment Portal that she and Piolo Pascual will have their first movie together under Star Cinema. She is excited this early, especially after learning that it will be shot in Australia.

That was the only detail that Angel provided about her movie with Piolo. She cannot say the title, plot, and even the director. For now, she and Piolo are focused in taping the episodes of Lobo.

As you can see in the translation, the movie is still under a speculative cloud, making the article violate WP:CRYSTAL as well. Starczamora (talk) 02:21, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Canley (talk) 02:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTCRYSTAL. WWGB (talk) 02:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per Starczamora. Schuym1 (talk) 03:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete without prejudice and return when can be sourced per WP:V. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:CRYSTAL, article can be recreated when more verifiable facts about the film surface. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 01:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Delete per WP:MOVIE and WP:CRYSTAL: no assertation of notability, no reliable sources appear to verify the article's single-sentence content. Cliff smith ^talk 02:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable, no reliable sources.--Lester 22:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 18:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per WP:CRYSTAL. Xeltran (talk) 05:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep In this article it clearly says After more than a month of training for horseback riding at the Manila Polo Club, Piolo Pascual and Angel Locsin are off to Bukidnon this Friday, August 29, to begin filming their first movie together which has been tentatively titled Land Down Under " Land Down Under is tentatively set for a November 12 opening as the final movie in Star Cinema’s 15th anniversary movie offering. " No need for this conversation!!! Flicrz (talk) 07:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete Still, it's still in-progress. I have a feeling that this article was made by a banned user. Blake Gripling (talk) 08:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP The title is already there as it has a references to prove that Land Down Under is really the title of the movie. No need for this discussion, i can say Strong Keep WRCurtis (talk) 09:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/Neutral For the perusal of everyone (especially the Filipino Wikipedians who say "Delete" using WP:CRYSTAL as a basis), the notability guideline for all future films is here. At first glance, the article looks set for the deletion bin. However, after taking a look at the guideline, the film, which is tentatively titled Land Down Under, already has a set date for the commencement of principal photography (per the Philippine Star, this is set for August 29 in Malaybalay City, Bukidnon), fulfilling the first tenet of the guideline. However, this raises the question of whether or not the actual filming is notable per the same guideline, which states: "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines". If the filming in itself is notable per WP:NFF, then I would be more inclined to vote "Keep". --Sky Harbor ^(talk) 10:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I kinda suspect that Flicrz and WRCurtis are sockpuppets of long-time Angel Locsin fanboy Aiza00. Starczamora (talk) 14:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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