Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamitta Frangieh

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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lamitta Frangieh[edit]

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Former beauty pageant participant, who never actually seems to have won any competitions. The article is sourced only by facebook. She does get a lot of hits on blogs and discussion forums but I can't seem to find anything reliable which demonstrates long term notability. Possibly in Arabic ? Travelbird (talk) 15:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep ~~Comment~~ I've added her apparent name in Arabic in a Find Sources above, and her self-published source seems to indicate that she was Miss Lebanon World 2004 or 2005 it says 2005, other sources say 2004, the discrepancy *may* arise from the year of the national contest being different than the year of the international contest or some such, but I really don't know. This article and this article actually appear to verify that claim in a BLP-concerning context. This article appears to have a less horrible context but calls her a Miss Lebanon runner-up, but in this article she says she had the full title. [1]. It's possible that both statements are accurate, I've seen a few beauty-contest participants where a runner-up has become "Miss something or other" when the original winner stepped down, but given that I'm relying on automated translation to verify my readings of Arabic above, I'd rather have the claims here verified by someone who can actually read Arabic. If the claim of Miss Lebanon World 2005 (or 2004) can be WP:V, I'd !vote keep, ~~but delete if it cannot be reliably verified that she held that title.~~ --j⚛e decker ^{talk to me} 03:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Switched to a clean keep in view of Whpq's final source) --j⚛e decker ^{talk to me} 16:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:HOTTIE, and perhaps some actual policy based reasons too. Note that her name is also spelled "Lamita Frangieh". Pageantopolis is a pageant fan site, so I doubt it really it s a reliable source. On the other hand, I find that fan(atics) are sticklers for details and I would personally trust material found this site. Pageantopolis's 2005 Miss World listing confirms she represented Lebanon at Miss World. [2], [3] are a couple of other sources which wouldn't meet our definition of reliable sources that list her as the Lebanese contestant at the 2005 Miss World. Using the spelling I found at Pageantopolis, I found a Tunisian news source that confirms her as the representing Lebanon. -- Whpq (talk) 15:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted this is an unreferenced BLP. It is unacceptable for this to leave AFD without sources in the article. Those wishing to keep it should source it. In the spirt of BLPprod, I'm relisting to allow more time for sourcing to be added, otherwise DELETE
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Scott Mac 22:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That's a very sane policy, two sources added, and some stubbing/rewriting completed. --j⚛e decker ^{talk to me} 02:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Won a national beauty pageant and went to Miss World. As a pageant queen, that's about as notable as it gets, short of being the Miss World winner. Mbinebri ^{talk ←} 19:55, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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