Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Laith Al-Saadi

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:28, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Laith Al-Saadi[edit]

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WP:BLP of a musician, not properly referenced as passing WP:NMUSIC. The strongest notability claim here is that he was a non-winning competitor in a reality singing competition, which is not in and of itself an automatic notability freebie in the absence of a WP:GNG-worthy volume of sourcing about him and his career -- but the article is completely unsourced, and absolutely nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have proper sourcing to establish his significance. Bearcat (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The best thing that I can find is this local news article. SL93 (talk) 23:57, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:56, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Promotional article, lacks WP:RS. MrsSnoozyTurtle 03:44, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There are many non-winners from The Voice who have their own pages. I don't see a problem with Laith having his own page. In fact, every finalist should have thier own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flaskback (talk • contribs) 01:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

People who didn't win reality shows can sometimes still go on to accomplish other things after their time on a reality show, and thus become notable for those things. Jennifer Hudson, for example, didn't win when she was on American Idol, but she went on to become an Oscar-winning actress and a Grammy-winning singer — which means she's notable because of what happened after she lost American Idol, rather than because she competed on American Idol. So no, the rule isn't "everybody who appears on a reality show automatically gets a Wikipedia article just for being on a reality show" — notability lives or dies on the depth of coverage that can or can't be shown in reliable sources about the things he accomplished after losing a reality show. Bearcat (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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