Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La figlia del diavolo

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The result was speedy keep, reader's choice of criterion #1 or #2e. Nominator's rationale was that the topic was a potential hoax; it is not, and the nominator has retracted that claim (if not, technically, the nomination). Regardless, nothing constructive would result from leaving this open. Non-admin closure. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

La figlia del diavolo[edit]

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No refs, and the external link given does not link anyway... IMdB does not have a page on this film... I think it's probably a hoax... Does it qualify for A1? Bonkers The Clown (talk) 05:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One what basis do you think it is a hoax? How much did you spend looking for references to prove notability? Did you go to google books? --LauraHale (talk) 05:40, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Erm other places maybe, but finding sources for a movie at Google books?? Bonkers The Clown (talk) 09:15, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which other places did you check before determining it was likely a hoax? That seems to be a rather strong accusation. It is one, given the article creator that you notified and their track record for articles at AfD, I would have questioned. So, before you decided it was a hoax, may I ask where you did look for information? Also, yes, I would assume that for an Italian film from the 1950s, book sources would be amongst the first places I would look. --09:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, whats the meaning of one what basis? Bonkers The Clown (talk) 09:15, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of "on what basis" is: What sources did you look at, what research did you do, what criteria did you have that made you determine this article was a hoax? --LauraHale (talk) 09:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. I asked for meaning of one what basis, which is what you typed, not on what basis. Never mind Bonkers The Clown (talk) 09:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, maybe its not a hoax, but now Im questioning its actual notability. Scanning through Google only gives me entries that only have very brief mentions of this Italian film. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 09:18, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't do a basic book search to determine the film existed. What sources have you looked through to determine the film is not notable? What Italian language newspaper sources did you look through? Which libraries did you look at? Did you look through Google Books? Did you look through Trove? Did you look through opera and Italian film related sources? Why do you think it is not notable now? What research have you done in the period between determining it was a hoax and then changing your mind and deciding it was not notable? --LauraHale (talk) 09:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Obviously a valid entry. --Ipigott (talk) 06:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Me no speak Italian, so if anybody can translate the Italian sources online, and show that there is in depth mention, I'd be happy to withdraw. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 09:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh. So many questions. Firstly, I have never said it was a hoax. I just said I thought it probably was. Secondly, do keep it cool. That many questions is certainly not inviting. I believe everybody has their own rights to voice their own opinion. Whats stopping me from saying that its not notable... But okay. It seems that it is notable, not a hoax, so well. I guess i would withdraw my nomination. Case closed. Cool down. Sayonara. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 09:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"but finding sources for a movie at Google books?? Anybody who says that clearly shouldn't have rights to nominate articles for deletion!!! Speedy close.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Every one has equal rights. Man. I just said the first thing that came in mind... All of you have the experience, I do not. So if i said or did something stupid just trout me. Besides, I already said that i want to. my nom. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 10:14, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Equal rights yes, but if you didn't know about google books you obviously shouldn't be nominating articles for deletion. Withdraw the nom and call it a lesson learned, no problem.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:29, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep - Five hundred and fucking thirty nine thousand hits for the exact title on a simple Google search, and the nominator speculates that this piece on a 1952 Italian film is "probably a hoax" and ponders A1. Ummm, please don't submit yourself for an RFA for the next year or two... I can also do without the grammar cop smartassery and the pidgin Italian-English. Blech. Speedy keep and trout. Carrite (talk) 00:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey carrite, me no take offenso, but what you say seems so uncivil yo? Is that a personal attacko, eh. Whats wrong with my "pidgin" Italian Englisho? I was born and raised in italio amigos. You have a problem with that, ya stuck up racist? u a big a_ _ _ _ cyber bully yo? Be civil yo! Vulgarities and such... Why. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 08:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.