Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kruty skirmishes

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The result was delete. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:17, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kruty skirmishes[edit]

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Tl;dr definitely doesn't pass WP:GNG. Probably a complete or partial hoax.

Since this page came into creation, there has been basically 1 single source. There are some reprinted sources (for example, in the Ukrainian state media and [1]), but all stem from a single Facebook post by a local Facebook page. This Facebook page has basically 0 editorial integrity. No sources not citing this Facebook post exist; in essence, this entire article is basically just Ukrainian propaganda based on what one extremely biased person posted on Facebook. Searches in both English and Ukrainian yield no further sources not tied to this post.

I had initially merged this to Eastern Ukraine offensive, but was reverted by Magog the Ogre ([2]), who stated "this is a fast moving story and worthy of its own article". The only way this tortoise is fast moving is if the hare took a nap. Curbon7 (talk) 09:05, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Russia, and Ukraine. Curbon7 (talk) 09:05, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unnecessary fork of Eastern Ukraine offensive and lack of RS make it questionable if anything actually happened. Unfortunately several Users are frantically creating pages about the Russo-Ukraine war without any consideration of notability or reliable sourcing. Mztourist (talk) 03:49, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah I've been steering articles regarding this war to the best of my ability (e.g. cleanup, copyediting, merges, sources), but I'm travelling a lot this week so there's fairly little oversight right now. It also doesn't help that this is probably the first time since the '03 invasion that Wikipedia has documented a high-scale symmetric war. Curbon7 (talk) 02:09, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as information about these "battles" is scarce and entirely sourced from propaganda. Not only is it unclear if these skirmishes even took place, even if they theoretically did they aren't notable enough to warrant their own page. Arakui (talk) 15:27, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I would say this should be put in Eastern Ukraine offensive instead. Problem is as pointed out above, right now the sourcing isn't adequate for even the details. -Imcdc (talk) 17:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete because the only information available about the battles comes from pages owned by the Ukrainian government, no other independent or reliable source talks about them. -Amuuun(talk) 19:27, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Is there really no other evidence about it? If not then it might be added to the Offensive, but that's probably it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawsongfg (talk • contribs) 21:30, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I have no objection if this is mentioned at Eastern Ukraine offensive. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is. Dawsongfg (talk) 01:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Article only created just because there's just fighting in a specific region. CR-1-AB (talk) 00:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Still, only fighting that's alleged. Dawsongfg (talk) 01:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:GNG. Single/Few source article.Mr.User200 (talk) 15:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete NOTNEWS and TOOSOON. Until the present war has progressed further, it is too soon to know what was significant. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:09, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable, I nominated an article about a similarly insignificant skirmish in Ukraine 6 years ago and it got deleted.ᗞᗴᖇᑭᗅᒪᗴᖇᎢ (talk)
Comment - I think its snowing here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.