Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krithika Nelson (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Krithika Nelson[edit]

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Factors don't appear to have changed since the October AfD. Just moved back out of draft by the creator. If this closes as delete, suggest SALT since there's some likely UPE/socking going on as well. Star Mississippi 13:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, India, and Tamil Nadu. Star Mississippi 13:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Yes, I did move the draft to the article space. Since it had been a while since I started creating this article, and was yet to receive notice from any of the mods, I thought something like this would get their attention - it did.

That said, I disagree with factors not appearing to have changed. I have added a lot more references citing the subject in an independent tone. Granted I don't have as much experience with Wikipedia editing as anyone with a mod status does, but this isn't fair, to be honest.

I see nothing wrong from my end except for moving the article of my own volition. If you still think this space should be deleted or salted, please go ahead. Aishu.m (talk) 14:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You submitted it for review on December 9, which was four days ago. While AfC isn't a requirement, if you choose to use it it's helpful to know that is not an unreasonable time to wait. Until recently, the backlog was several months. We're all volunteers here. What is your rush in having the article in mainspace? Star Mississippi 01:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Going by my most recent submission, yes, it isn't an unreasonable time to wait. But this article has been consistently declined or nominated for deletion since much earlier than December 9. Each time a mod suggests edits, I diligently update it to the best of my abilities only to have it rejected yet again. I understand we're all volunteers here, and I'm deeply grateful for your work. But surely you can understand the frustration of trying to do something right only for it to be shut down.

I admit moving this article to the mainspace when review was pending wasn't the best course of action. It was done purely to get a mod's attention after months of trying and trying and trying only to get my very first article wrong each time. I'm just hoping to create a page for someone who I think is significantly notable in the Chennai/TN region, but it's honestly discouraging to have it consistently put up for deletion. I hope you can atleast consider moving it back to the drafts until the article is found satisfying enough to be moved to the mainspace again. Aishu.m (talk) 06:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you don't quite understand the process. When it comes up for deletion, an admin may close it but it is more than one person's decision. The community believes Nelson isn't yet notable. While some AfC reviewers are admins, myself included, others are regular editors. While you did make updates on 9 December, that hasn't always been the case. Consensus on October 27 was to draftify and on October 29 without making a single change, you submitted it for AfC. That is not diligent updating. I am not inclined to move it back to draft space right now without community consensus because we'll just end up back here a fourth time. You'd be best served looking at source quality (not interviews, promotional stuff) and improve it with those, not quantity of sources. You're editing in good faith, but it's possible that Nelson is not notable. Star Mississippi 14:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll wait until we reach a consensus and see what can be done post that. Thank you for taking the time to explain things. Aishu.m (talk) 06:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Same as last time in October, nothing has changed since then. The award might be notable, but we'd need much more sourcing than what's given now. I can't find anything extra that wasn't there in October. Oaktree b (talk) 15:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. As mentioned in the previous comment, I have added references that can support the statements better. That's the significant change done here. I believe that's a decent number of sources. Most, if not all, mods have stated there weren't enough independent sources. Now that there are (or atleast I think there are), I'm confused - where is it going wrong? I try to get things right, but never seem to be able to. Aishu.m (talk) 15:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Longer, extensive sources are needed, not name drops or "come watch this video" posts. Oaktree b (talk) 17:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I believe there are a decent number of interviews and review articles where her work has been discussed independently, compared to the name drops and "come watch this video" posts. Additionally, there are several other Wiki pages that link to this one, which I think is further testament to the notability of the subject.

I have seen other articles with far little information and even less resources that have still gone through. Seeing those, I'd like to think I've put in the work required to have this stay on.

I'm sure you would know better than a rookie like me, but I think having this article deleted would be an extreme move. I hope you can atleast consider draftifying it instead. Aishu.m (talk) 07:06, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 23:43, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I have looked into this quite carefully and believe it should be kept on the basis of general notability. At least three of the sources (including those in Tamil) provide quite extensive independent coverage. I do not believe they should be excluded just because they are partly based on interviews. Several of the other sources, though brief, include pertinent information in line with GNG. Furthermore, the article could no doubt be extended on the basis of more careful searching in Tamil and other sources, including newspaper and journal accounts not readily accessible on the internet.--Ipigott (talk) 11:34, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Ipigott think she meets WP:GNG.Lankancats (talk) 04:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redraftify: The move to main article space was out of process due to the article being draftified by AFD. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:32, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Ipigott and the award is notable including the Best Lyricist award for her work in Ponniyin Selvan 1 for the song Sol on JFW Movie Awards 2023. Tame Rhino (talk) 00:10, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
— Tame Rhino (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Star Mississippi 02:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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