Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krazy George Henderson

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The result was keep. Cirt (talk) 00:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Krazy George Henderson[edit]

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Delete. This gentleman claims to have invented "the wave" and also purports to be the "World's Sexiest Professional Cheerleader". There are no sources for any of this, of course. JBsupreme (talk) 23:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

KeeP KeeP (the Afd version of the Wave). There's this Washington Post article, an AP story in the Victoria Advocate and his claim is disputed in this ESPN article. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Clarityfiend, assuming someone adds those cites, and puts them in context in the article. Bearian (talk) 22:40, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the significant coverage found by Clarityfiend. Jujutacular ^T · C 03:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Redirect to Audience wave under WP:BLP1E. Abductive (reasoning) 05:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // ark // 08:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- the sources found above establish notability, and WP:BLP1E states that a person should otherwise be trying to have a private life. Since the man is appearing in commercials to this day (at least according to the article), he's not trying to remain private. Umbralcorax (talk) 14:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP1E doesn't state that a person should otherwise be trying to remain private! It says that they remain low profile; the secondary sources or lack thereof are the metric of their profile, not their intent. Abductive (reasoning) 20:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To quote the policy "if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having an article on them", are you trying to say that he's trying to remain a low profile individual while still appearing on tv in advertisements? Umbralcorax (talk) 21:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's the "trying" part I'm addressing. The policy doesn't care if the individual is trying to be famous or trying to hide. The policy is merely looking at the outcome; are they low profile? Abductive (reasoning) 04:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, the WP:BLP1E cannot possibly apply as this person is notable as a cheerleader of sorts who has been hired by a plethora of different teams. RFerreira (talk) 23:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any secondary sources that talk about this? Abductive (reasoning) 04:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, the man was a living legend and subject of all sorts of media attention in his day. He was a fixture and easy TV camera fodder at any Bay Area sporting event, particularly Oakland A's games, broadcast nationally. Yes, his peak was decades ago, but even if it has faded, notability does not disappear with time. He's apparently still working in sports cheerleading, so he's not going into the witness protection program. There is no reason to delete.Trackinfo (talk) 04:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide any secondary sources that say this? Abductive (reasoning) 04:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but the independent sources that verify his notability must be included in the article. Wikipeterproject (talk) 17:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.