Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korra Obidi

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Korra Obidi[edit]

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:NMODEL. The references cited in the article are primary sources and are not independent of the subject. A Google search of the subject doesn't show coverage independent of her. The article was also created by a sock user and was written in a promotional tone. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 19:26, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete a non-notable musician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:59, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep First of all let me start by saying this article deserve to be in wikipedia as long as my evidence will be concern, it 100 percent pass WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO, let me start by proving the person who tag this article wrong, he or she says; google search does not show independent coverage of her, I will provide references that are independent and reliable.

There are two news report that she was called professional dancer and actress according to the report, here: https://naijapalaba.com/nigerian-dancer-korra-obidi-hubby-celebrate-wedding-anniversary/ and here also a professional dancer 💃 and actress; https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/07/10/korra-obidi-hubby-welcomes-baby-girl/

Another news 📰 report, by Olayemi oladotun he report her as famous Nigerian dancer 💃 here; https://www.informationng.com/2020/01/marriage-is-not-success-dancer-korra-obidi.html

Another report by Mobola sadiq, where she said to be living in Lagos before, and she was reported as a singer and a dancer, here; https://punchng.com/i-enjoy-criticism-korra-obidi/

As a singer she holds a singled which was given a titled 50/50, starring her baby 👶 in the video, so she is not even a local dancer 💃; https://www.bellanaija.com/2020/01/korra-obidi-50-50-2/ She is also said to be famous Nigerian dancer 💃 when she experienced hardships in her marriage. https://newzandar.com/2020/01/13/marriage-is-not-success-dancer-korra-obidi/

Another report here by Amaka odozi in December 19 2019, korra obidi attends a concert hold by Zlatan Ibile in lagos, when performing on stage trying to do "Gbese" dance she falls, and she was the main subject not pass by, So here she is in the news 📰, so the video circulated online according to the report. https://www.informationng.com/2019/12/korra-obidis-wig-falls-off-on-stage-while-attempting-to-do-gbese-video.html

Another report by Temitope Alabi, in December 4 2019, korra celebrate wedding 💒 anniversary with her husband Dr Austin Jean, a picture of two of them was provided kissing, If she is not notable her wedding 💒 annivery will not be on news 📰 , because it is of no use. here; https://www.informationng.com/2019/12/korra-obidi-husband-celebrate-their-wedding-anniversary.html Another report by tobiloba July 24 2019, she shares her photos with her newborn. https://www.36ng.ng/2019/07/24/kora-obidi-shares-cute-photos-of-herself-with-newborn-daughter/

Another report by oladimeji in 12 February 2020 korra's child was signed as international modelling agency. In this report korra has an official social media page under LA modelling, where she has 72k followers , to be known by over 72 people is surely a notability. and here https://www.36ng.ng/2020/02/12/korra-obidis-daughter-signed-to-international-modelling-agency/

All the sites are news sites not local blog or gossip sites, so I advise you to look into the links and read the news report carefully, it only takes me 30 minutes to find this references.

I am sorry to say some people are just tagging article for deletion without deep search in google or elsewhere, and some are just voting delete without making inquiry, there are even alot of more news site that I left behind, to me this article stand a chance, User:Versace1608 and User:Johnpacklambert I will be glad if you will ask me any question about this meeting the criterion, remember if you did not ask, I will surly ask you to answer for my question, I want to look through your perspective point of view regarding your deletion opinion toward this article. Thank you. An@ss_koko^{(speak up)}^©T® 21:32, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Anasskoko: With the exception of P.M. News and The Punch, none of the remaining sources you linked in this discussion are reliable. All of them are blog sources that lack editorial oversight. The P.M News source is an announcement about the subject's pregnancy; how exactly does this source establish notability? The Punch source is a Q&A source; this particular source is not independent of the subject. You've failed to show how the subject meets WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:NMODEL. Tell us which notability criterion does she meet. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 01:32, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete - non notable subject not meeting the general notability guidelines hence fails WP:GNG. At best this bare notability. Celestina007 (talk) 02:07, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Versace1608: I look through you comment and I get to understand that you are not debating base on facts, you are are debating base on your self interest, there are significant coverage of this article on google search but you stated that eight among them are blogs, so my question here is please can you state and explain what a blog is? and explain the characteristics that those news web sites possesses which makes them a blog not a news sites? because to me I totally disagree with you, we all know what a blog is, so dont make false claim on everybody's watch, but I want to hear it from you and see it from your point of view.

If a reference is provided from a news website you dont have any right to say they are not independent, if you think they are, then take them to this WP:RD for verification, please I speak to you pleasantly, it is not all the articles that you tag deserve to be deleted, that is why it is placed here for consensus, if good references facts support an article, please confess. If this article is left undeleted or deleted you and me have nothing in return, but one thing I know is it does not deserve to be deleted, that is why I am here.

Furthermore, here are another references to build my facts, I advise you to make deep research again because there is alot of news websites discussing about this article.

https://validupdates.com/2020/01/bad-girls-make-history-good-girls-die-off-korra-obidi/
https://newsexpressngr.com/news/69621-Top-female-dancer-Korra-Obidi-shows-off-her-protruding-belly
https://1stnews.com/nigerian-dancer-korra-obidi-welcomes-baby-girl-video/
https://nigeriana.news/tag/korra-obidi
https://pearlsnews.com/pregnancy-makes-me-love-my-boobs-backside-korra-obidi/
https://www.newsheadlines.com.ng/linda-ikeji-blog/2019/12/24/dancer-korra-obidi-shares-raunchy-swimwear-photo/
https://www.legit.ng/1247961-nigerian-dancer-korra-obidi-husband-child.html

I want an administrator take a look carefully on this user User:Celestina007, he or she is not voting from neutral point of view, to vote Strong Delete for this article is not honest while references are provided, why not Weak Delete, because this article has significant coverage from independent reliable resources as I provided. Thank you. An@ss_koko^{(speak up)}^©T® 10:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Anasskoko: I am not debating on any self-interest. I've repeatedly said the subject fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:NMODEL. Since you believe she is notable, you need to tell us which criterion she meets. The sources you've provided doesn't show her passing any of the three notability criteria. The second bunch of sources you cited here is laughable to say the least. Take a look at this source closely, the headline reads: "Pregnancy Makes Me Love My Boobs, Backside – Korra Obidi". How exactly is this source a reliable source? Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 00:59, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Versace1608: Oh my god! my question is not answered, you are just beating around the bush, I know you have said this earlier, Just answer my question, please can you state and explain what a blog is? and explain the characteristics that those news web sites possesses which makes them a blog not a news sites? from your last comment you made mention of reference 5 as unreliable, lets make it clear, eliminate reference 5 from the equation, remain 16 references to deal with, explain? remember! by saying they are unreliable does not carry any weights, you need physical evidence, either from wikipedia by laws or from their characteristic, or any evidence you can find but not from your self interest. I even think of adding more references then I realize that you are not ready to prove the previous ones unworthy. Thank You. An@ss_koko^{(speak up)}^©T® 08:47, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Anasskoko: Blog sources are self-published sources that primarily focus on gossip and trivial stories. The Naijapalaba source you cited here is a self-published blog source. The website's About Us page doesn't show it having any editorial oversight. The site claims to have editors but do not named them; Naijapalaba is a content farm site at best.

P.M News is a reliable source. However, this particular piece is simply an announcement of the subject and her husband witnessing the birth of their first child; it doesn't establish her as a notable figure. For crying out loud, people are not notable simply because they have a baby.

Information Nigeria is an unreliable source that relies on gossip. The stories they published here, here and here are not encyclopedic material. Newszander is not a reliable source; this particular piece they publish about the subject's comments on marriage is not encyclopedic and doesn't establish her as a notable act. Someone isn't notable simply because they believe that being married is not an achievement for a lady.

The Punch is a credible source. However, this particular piece cannot be used to establish notability since it isn't independent of the subject.

BellaNaija is a credible blog source; however, this particular piece is simply a press release about the subject's "50/50" single. The song itself fails WP:NSONG. From the source, we learned that the subject has released one EP and has plans of releasing another. I did a Google search of both EPs and do not see them being discussed in reliable sources.

36NG is a self-published blog source that lacks editorial oversight. This story they published about the subject sharing photos of herself with her newborn daughter or this one about said daughter inking a deal with a modeling agency cannot be used to establish notability. Personal life info cannot be used to establish someone's notability.

Valid Updates is a self-publish gossip source; this particular piece they published is not encyclopedic and does nothing to establish the subject as a notable figure.

News Express Nigeria is a questionable source that lacks editorial oversight. This particular piece they published is garbage and does nothing to establish the subject as a notable figure.

1st News is not a credible source. A website that allows anyone to write for them is not credible. This particular piece is the same recycled story about the subject's delivery. It does nothing to establish the subject as a notable figure. People are not notable simply because there are photos and videos of them delivering their child.

Nigeriana is not a credible source. Again, any website that allows anyone to write for them is not credible. None of the stories here establishes the subject as a notable figure.

Pearl News is not a credible source; it is a self-published blog source that lacks editorial oversight. As I already pointed out, this garbsge does not belong in an encyclopedia.

This is another garbage published by Nigeria News Headlines Today. Tell me how does looking at a picture of the subject spreading her legs encyclopedic?

Legit News is probably a credible source, but this particular piece is the same recycled story about the subject's and her husband witnessing the birth of their first child.

You've provided a lot of sources here, but none of them validates the subject's notability. You need to show us how she meets the requirements outlined in WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:NMODEL; do not waste time linking a whole bunch of unreliable sources. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 11:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Versace1608: Good and fine, according to your defination you said that "focus on gossip and trivial stories" the websites are all in news format having authors/reporters as I stated earlier, none of them are gossip or trivial story reporters, in the news websites I provided, they have news headlings, author/reporter, date and is written in news format, lets the general public judge this one, here is a report about Anthony Joshua a boxer when he meet president Muhammadu Buhari in London, BBC and naijapalaba have a report on this, so lets compare and contrast and see, here is BBC report https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51181203 and here is Naijapalaba report, https://naijapalaba.com/anthony-joshua-british-boxer-prostrates-before-buhari-in-london-photo/ , so please click and see, what is the difference between the two in term of news qualities, only that BBC is far popular and better than naijapalaba, by seeing this you will get to understand my point, what I am saying here is, Naijapalaba.com is a news website compared to others , so don't waste our time by saying the sites are not reliable or blogs, you need prove or we shall take the 16 references to reference desk for verification of the sites, if the websites are blogs or news webssites we shall see then.

Also according to the law provided by Wikipedia under this WP:NEXIST and this WP:NPOSSIBLE it also pass. An@ss_koko^{(speak up)}^©T® 11:14, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Anasskoko: Just because these websites are in "news format" doesn't make them reliable. P.M News, The Punch and BellaNaija are the only reliable sources from that bunch. All of the remaining sources are not reliable. Headings, author/reporter, and news format are not notability markers; those sources are not notable because they lack editorial oversight. Please do not compare Naijapalaba with BBC. Naijapalaba is nowhere near close to being a reliable source. Apart from posting gossip stories, Naijapalaba has zero editorial oversight despite claiming to have editors. Feel free to take all 16 references to the reference desk. While you're at it, don't forget to link the garbage stories these websites publish on a daily basis. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 13:43, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Claimed notable achievements are not supported by WP:RS. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 12:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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