Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kirkalocka

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:44, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kirkalocka[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:29, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:01, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete reads like an advertisement. No more significant than similar farms or businesses that have no Wiki page/ Teraplane (talk) 23:07, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep its a historical sheep station and homestead, its the location of 3 previously unknown plant species. Its was one of the early stations to transition away from grazing sheep to providing tourist accommodation and conservation. The article is only a stub, a quick search on Trove reveals a significant number of sources related to the location https://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=Kirkalocka . It should also be noted that Western Australian media outlet archives arent available on the web for period between 1950's to the last 6 months, rendering google next to useless to assess WA subject importance. Gnangarra 00:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your first two sentences don't add anything to notability. Please read below for the response to the link provided. Your last sentence reflects WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:41, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I had added to the article about its role in use of museling in australia, which shows the stations activities were covered in across australia as per the sources, before you even made this comment. I wasn't saying there must be sources I'm saying there are sources and it is Notable. Gnangarra 11:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've add a few more sources to the talk page these will require in person further exploration. Gnangarra 12:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep deleted the remaining promotional text. A simple news search shows quite a bit about Kirkalocka, so it should easily pass our geographic notability guidelines. I've added one of the sources I've found. SportingFlyer T·C 04:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - Pastoral leases in Western Australia are notable locations of landholdings in range land areas, with a whole range of land types, geological and geographical features, as well historial sites that tie into the complexities of the landscape of the pilbara, kimberley and goldfields regions of the state. There is adequate material about rangeland land mangement that substantiates almost every pastoral holding of its sort as both notable and potentially related across a wide range of topics. GNG is not a guide to such an item Trove is -https://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=kirkalocka JarrahTree 05:29, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe evidence to back up your claims? Where does it say that it has "a whole range of land types, geological and geographical feature". We cannot assess the coverage in the sources provided by the link as we do not have the sources. Therefore, we cannot make claims that the source hold information when we don't even have access to the sources. Thanks, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Take your pick of newspaper articles here, which you can clearly view. Lots old and routine, but clearly passes WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 13:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A cricket match, a new bike, a fierce kangaroo, and a dead garden. You'll have to be more specific, I still can't see anything about "a whole range of land types, geological and geographical feature". Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The place is large enough to have been written about in terms of the geological record. I'm commenting it passes WP:GNG, making the necessity of placating you by going to the library and getting a copy of the book unnecessary, especially given per WP:GEOLAND we have a presumption these sorts of articles should be okay, and it's been clearly verified. SportingFlyer T·C 23:59, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If you follow the link you'll see 1,000+ news sources, all the geological sources, as well various government gazettes, and scientific journals that relate to the locations, plus more. Gnangarra 11:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A sheep station doesn't fall under WP:GEOLAND, does it? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:25, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.