Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalil Saeed Hawayek

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There's sufficient concensus among participants that the subject is non-notable, whether or not the article is a hoax Olaf Davis (talk) 12:31, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Khalil Saeed Hawayek[edit]

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strongly suspect this is a hoax article. for a supposed politician nothing in gnews, and google only reveals mirrors of this WP article. LibStar (talk) 11:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. —Polargeo (talk) 13:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The user has created 14 articles [1] that have not so far been deleted as hoaxes. Polargeo (talk) 13:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect this will end up being deleted as unverifiable per WP:V or possibly non-notable per WP:BIO, although I also suspect that if the right sources could be found this person might be able to remain so I will hold off voting for a bit. Polargeo (talk) 13:23, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

if this person was a politician they would easily get third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 07:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes if you apply that today or for a US politician. But unless the politician was very important a mid ranking Lebanese politician who died in 1977 may well be difficult to find in a google search. That does not mean third party coverage does not exist. As I said this will probably end up deleted because we cannot verify, I am just trying to note that it is unlikely that this is a hoax. Polargeo (talk) 08:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

given that the article creator was able to supply photos of this individual you would think they would know sources. there is also no Arabic article for this individual which also made me suspicious. LibStar (talk) 10:30, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am not arguing against you. If you look at the article creator's name, I suspect that the article creator is related to the individual hence the photos. Unfortunately the article creator is not around anymore and so the sources that we need to keep are unlikely to be available even if the creator has them, hence I have not posted a keep !vote. For Lebanese history it is sometimes better searching in French than Arabic. Polargeo (talk) 10:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

google news and google searches French sources as well, and I still can't find anything to verify his existence. LibStar (talk) 04:49, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not verifiable. Polargeo (talk) 10:02, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 03:47, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Doesn't matter whether it's verifiable, or a hoax, because it fails on more basic grounds. The article doesn't make an assertion of notability, it doesn't provide reliable sources justifying any such claim, and it doesn't meet the notability criteria at WP:N or WP:POLITICIAN. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There was no need to relist this. My only argument above was against the nom calling it a hoax and that we should see if sources came up. They haven't so delete. Polargeo (talk) 10:17, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.