Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Laisi

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The result was Delete. Tyrenius (talk) 01:18, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Laisi[edit]

No secondary sources establishing notability. The only link leads to a site selling his art. I tried in vain to find anything that established notability but everything I could find online was either a mirror of wikipedia or the same sort of 'biographical sketch' used on a page to sell items. If someone has a big old history book on the Zimbabwe sculpture industry, prove me wrong. Epthorn (talk) 07:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The pages "to sell items" that you mention show galleries in Africa, America and Europe offering his work, some listing his name as one of their "top" or "featured" artists. Galleries "sell items" in the same way that sports fixtures "sell tickets": they're not just businesses, they're part of deciding who counts as notable in their field. --Paularblaster (talk) 14:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 16:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that but the fact that they stand to make a profit off of him means that we cannot necessarily trust that the are independent, 3rd party sources now can we? Take this sentence, for example: "Kenneth's ambition is to become one of Zimbabwe's leading and talented artists and up-lift the up-coming generation of artists." That does not inspire confidence. There are books and magazines that are independent of sales which COULD be used to decide notability.Epthorn (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete on current showing - notability not asserted. Johnbod (talk) 17:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to gain more participation. Also notifying article creator, who has so far not been told. --Tyrenius (talk) 15:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]
Delete fails WP:BIO. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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