Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelechi Iheanacho (footballer born 1996)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Given the discussion, I do not believe there is consensus. Several editors have suggested that in fairly short time, subject will join fully pro league passing NFOOTY. Although CRYSTALBALL likely should apply, I do not see benefit the project to deleting now to re-create within months. Tawker (talk) 21:01, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kelechi Iheanacho (footballer born 1996)[edit]

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Contested PROD. No evidence that this seventeen year old is notable - He's being scouted by bigger clubs, which happens all the time, does not make him pass WP:GNG. All the reliable sources seem to be claims, with no substance. JMHamo (talk) 15:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Even the title is terrible. G S Palmer (talk) 17:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 18:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm pretty sure are a ton of highly touted prospects out there. Still fails notability guidelines. – Michael (talk) 21:04, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Player has not played in fully professional league, nor played senior international football, so fails NFOOTY. No indication of any other achievements garnering significant reliable coverage to achieve GNG. Fenix down (talk) 13:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - He has played once in a friendly game for the senior national team. but I'm NOT sure if the game was a FIFA sanctioned friendly game as per Wikipedia guidelines though. see it here and here Darreg (talk) 14:13, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Read this article from CAF official website about him here. He was recognized late last year alongside YaYa Toure by the soccer regulatory body late last year Darreg (talk) 14:13, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That was definitely not an official game, it was against a club side! Giant Snowman 17:41, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The Award he received from CAF was previously held by Obafemi Martins and John Mikel Obi who are now major forces in the African continent.

PS: The Recognition is not an Age-grade award but it's normally given to developing African players that showcase unique quality and talents by storm (though they are young most times because it's time bound).

If I may also add Obafemi Martins did not represent Nigeria at any age-grade tournament yet he won this award for 2 consecutive years.

This is just an observation and NOT a guideline --> There is presently no player that has won the FIFA U-17 Player of the Tournament (Golden Ball) that is not currently on Wikipedia. Personally I feel deleting this article is unnecessary when you consider the MVP trend. Darreg (talk) 20:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of WP:CRYSTAL going on here. If and when he's a big star in a few years time, this article can be restored very easily. Presently he does not pass WP:GNG... JMHamo (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My second statement was just an observation and not a guideline for it to be kept as stated above. Darreg (talk) 22:39, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Since an admin deleted a similar player Dele Alampasu I think this should also be DELETED because the only notable difference in their soccer careers is that Kelechi Iheanacho won a major CAF award. So the real question should be, does winning that award from CAF make him pass GNG? Darreg (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would say it does not, see WP:BLP1E... JMHamo (talk) 20:42, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets WP:GNG with long, detailed, significant coverage such as [1] [2] [3] Nfitz (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - that seems only to discuss transfer talk. Also this is not a lengthy article on the player, most of the article is about unrelated matters. this is just a speculative article, as is this. To be honest, there are also WP:BLP1E issues here, if all that can be found is specualtion about one transfer move. Fenix down (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your missing a key element of these articles. Your focusing on the transfer discussion, and ignore the consistent element that exists in many of the articles that cover him, noting that he was "the star player at the Under-17 World Cup". Not a star player, but THE star player at 2013 FIFA U-17 World Cup; he was awarded the Adidas Golden Ball. He was also awarded the CAF "most promising talent" [4] award. Combined with the the international coverage of his transfer, his receiving international media coverage for 3 different events. Nfitz (talk) 03:36, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But what your missing is the consensus, of which I belive you are aware, that non-senior international achievements are deemed inherently non-notable per WP:NFOOTY.

What you are missing is that WP:NFOOTY is irrelevant, as he meets WP:GNG through the international media coverage of these 3 different events. Nfitz (talk) 11:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - If its about extensive significant media coverage of his career, he totally passes GNG. The only reason why I was skeptical about giving my keep vote was that I thought not making an official debut for Nigeria as an U-17 player will always count against his notability. but I believe his career has enough significant coverage to make him pass GNG. If I may also add, all the other 2 nominees(Ebenezer Assifuah and Saleh_Gomaa) he competed against to win the CAF Award are all professional players. 1, 2, 3. Darreg (talk) 08:32, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being a professional player is not relevant, they need to be playing in a fully professional league or have played senior international football. So far, there is a small amount of WP:ROUTINE transfer speculation about these players. Fenix down (talk) 09:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I only made reference to Professional Players just to prove that the award he won was not an under-age award but a continental first level Award. I know he does NOT meet WP:NFOOTY but what about GNG? I believe significant media coverage coupled with a continental award makes him pass GNG. Darreg (talk) 11:50, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at that link, the award seems to be for playing in the U-17 world cup. Plus the length of coverage in that article is barely a sentence. Fenix down (talk) 12:21, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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