Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katsuaki Asai

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The result was nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 04:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Katsuaki Asai[edit]

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I don't see that this person meets WP:MANOTE. The sources clearly show that he runs a successful aikido school, but I don't think that's sufficient to show notability. I also don't think being the national rep to Germany shows notability, but others may disagree. Papaursa (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Asai is the founder of Aikikai in Germany.[1] He is the highest ranked aikidoka in Germany.[2] The sources tend to be in German because he is in Germany. Aikido Journal has an interview with him in English. jmcw (talk) 20:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for responding. The article's creator and I had exchanged posts on our talk pages so I thought putting it up for AfD was the fastest way to get consensus. In the old days I'd have posted it at WT:WPMA, but few people seem to go there anymore. Papaursa (talk) 23:47, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Exchanged posts"? I placed a message on your talkpage requesting that you notify the article creator next time you tagged an article for CSD, since you hadn't - that, and your subsequent notification of this discussion, has been the full extent of our correspondence. Not exactly a full and frank exchange of views... Yunshui 雲‍水 08:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per he reasons listed by my colleague above. The nominator appears to indiscriminately be a single-purpose anti-MMA account or something. --The Bachmann Editor Overdrive (talk) 22:22, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The subject of this article has nothing to do with MMA. They deal with akido which is not MMA, so your anti-MMA account accusation makes no sense. --TreyGeek (talk) 22:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. You are correct in a sense, it looks like it is anti-MA, not just MMA. --The Bachmann Editor Overdrive (talk) 22:41, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (article creator !vote) Passes WP:MANOTE#1, which (since MANOTE is not actually part of the notability policy, and hence is not a good standpoint from which to argue for or against deletion) is equivalent to passing WP:GNG or WP:BASIC. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I don't think being the highest ranking person in Germany of an art is sufficient grounds for notability, but combined with the fact that he was sent there to introduce that art I think is sufficient. Astudent0 (talk) 17:32, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, WP:BASIC does not require either to establish notability. jmcw (talk) 20:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy close. Nominator wants to withdraw. Nyttend (talk) 00:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.