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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Scott Mac 18:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Katherine Sweetman[edit]

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A local artist who fails to meet WP:ARTIST

Policy criteria aside, I'm not at this point convinced that this topic is notable under WP:N: "Article and list topics must be notable, or 'worthy of notice'."  There is a large body of self-published work supporting the article.  Working through the references, what I see is ephemeral, I'm not seeing material of lasting interest.  Reviewers might also want to consider if the burning-your-bridges resignation fits as a WP:BLP1E.  I agree with Bearian's interest in seeing the viewpoint of an expert.  Unscintillating (talk) 20:01, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete WP:N policy states, "...if reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having a biographical article on that individual."  Unscintillating (talk) 09:48, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Artist
Creative professionals

WP:ARTIST artist:

  • ...widely cited by peers (see: Controversial Activism)
  • The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, ... that has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. (see: below substantial part of a significant international exhibition with Lui Velazquez, Tijuana)
  • The person's work either ... has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, ... has won significant critical attention... (see: Controversial Activism)


substantial part of a significant international exhibition with Lui Velazquez, Tijuana Lui Velazquez collaborative: Lui Velazquez was involved in numerous collaborations with other art museums, galleries and institutions including:

  • Tijuana Cultural Center (CECUT), for the project "emergencia - agencia/emergente // emergency - emergent/agency" as part of Proyecto Cívico: Diálogos e Interrogantes.
  • The Sense Lab in Montreal, Quebec, Lui Velazquez was one of the "molecules" in the international event Society of Molecules organized by the Sense Lab.
  • Estacion Tijuana

Lui Velazquez Publications, Articles written by members of the Lui Velazquez collective on their works include: I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY in Digimag.it, an Italian New Media magazine, http://www.digicult.it/digimag/article.asp?id=1644 and Free Phone in the Inflexions journal, http://www.senselab.ca/inflexions/volume_4/tangents/sandiego/freephone.html See also:

substantial part of a significant international exhibition at La Casa del Tunel: Art Center, Tijuana Screening of Living in Tijuana, La Casa Túnel: Art Center, Colonia Federal, Tijuana, Mexico also see: Gringos que Defienden Tijuana, http://diez4.com/diez4/2010/extra-extra/gringos-que-defienden-tijuana/ GRINGOS LIVING IN TIJUANA, http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/event-4905-gringos-living-in-tijuana.html --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.2.217.88 (talk • contribs)

Comment San Diego–Tijuana is a conurbation and, although there is an international border separating the two, they are economically and socially connected -- thus any coverage in Tijuana about Sweetman should be considered local rather than international in scope, as it should for any San Diego/Tijuana artists featured in either the English or Spanish language media on either side of the border. The American owner of La Casa del Tunel and La Casa del Tunel itself is prominently featured in the film Living in Tijuana, which means that a showing of the movie there is not an NPOV source in terms of demonstrating notability of the subject. Also as this article states, the Lui Velazquez Gallery Space was located in Tijuana, but initially funded by the subject's graduate art program in the United States (also per the logo on the website as well) However, the article, written in 2009, states that UCSD was no longer funding the project. And although no third party reliable source exists that I can find, the website has not been updated with any project past 2009 as well as mentioning gallery space in the past tense. The Lui Velazquez wikipedia article(also of questionable notability) also states that the space closed in 2009 as well, seemingly demonstrating the deep connection between UCSD's funding and the program's existence. XinJeisan (talk) 21:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Coverage is beyond local, and is sufficient to establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep (Comment) and rescue, based on what I assume are good sources. Some of the external links need to be turned into references. Hence my tags. Bearian (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am concerned that so many of the external links are dead links. I am assuming less good faith. Bearian (talk) 17:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I am even more concerned that some of the facts can not be verified. Can we get an expert on this, please? Bearian (talk) 17:57, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • I am sure that the authors of this article are sincere, but it's looking more like we can't verify the subject's notability. Rescue or userfy? Bearian (talk) 15:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No real assertion of notability. The blog protest would belong in Pincus' article, except he doesn't have one. Also per XinJeisan. Johnbod (talk) 03:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pincus doesn't have one but the San Diego Union-Tribune does the content about the blog protest could be merged into the UT article -- which would make a good section on the changes to the paper.


  • Keep - Meets WP:ARTIST, artist obviously widely cited by peers. Obviously created, or played a major role in creating or co-creating significant or well-known work, has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, and had won significant critical attention. Parties (above) that seem invested on deletion of this entry may know Ms. Sweetman personally, and they may have been involved in the local media-storm that was created after the release of Introduction/Resignation on the Union Tribune's site. Long-time arts critic Robert Pincus' wikipedia page also deleted by individuals above. Pincus' untimely lay-off ignited anger in the arts community that seems to be felt here. But obviously this entry is valid and individual controversial.

Other Significant Articles local and non-local (local) San Diego City Beat mentions controversial activism in Top Art News of 2010: The Local and International Art Stories of the Year, Kinsee Morlan, San Diego City Beat, December 2010 [1]

(Non Local) Getting Paid: Chicago art critics talk money, F News Magazine, Ania Szremski [2]

Bay Area Observer: Cheapskate Arts Coverage Backfires on Newspaper http://www.sfbayareaobserver.com/2010/11/cheapskate-arts-coverage-backfires-on.html

Los Angles Times: Arts Writers Urges Boycott of San Siego Union Tribune http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2010/11/arts-writers-urges-boycott-of-san-diego-union-tribune-.html

Los Angles Times: Freephone Art Project offers the deported a chance to phone home* http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2009/05/freephone-project.html

Modern Art Notes: By Tyler Green http://blogs.artinfo.com/modernartnotes/2010/11/newspaper-lays-off-critic-reader-lays-into-newspaper/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.200.123 (talk) 06:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have attempted show good faith throughout my engagement with this article. I opened the debate and I presented good faith counter-evidence in a straightforward manner expressing my belief that the artist was not notable per wikipedia policy, without making judgement on the quality of her work. However, since the IP above, in addition to deleting my comments on the article talk page, has expressed a lack of good faith toward the arguments and participants in this AfD, I decided to follow long standing suspicions and open up a sockpuppet investigation against the creator of this article User:Wikiuserz rights and the now two IPs that have made arguments against deletion on this page.
I would have liked to complete this AfD in accordance to the philosophy of consensus the project upholds and was obviously willing to abide by any agreement made by the community rather than resort to this action. But it is important that those engaged in the debate are transparent in who they are, what their history is with this article, and that each comment on this page is traced to the individual who presented it. The SPI process, at this point, is the most transparent way to make sure this occurs in this discussion. XinJeisan (talk) 10:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The LA Times article is all about her. Ample coverage. Dream Focus 08:51, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There is enough significant multiple reliable independent references to satisfy WP:N.4meter4 (talk) 07:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, coverage relates to a single event rather than being enduring and continuing. Stifle (talk) 18:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
  1. ^ http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/blog-103-top-art-news-of-2010.html
  2. ^ http://fnewsmagazine.com/wp/2010/11/getting-paid/
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