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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — TheMagnificentist 08:23, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Karol Vail[edit]

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Single source is affiliated. The article does not convey why the subject passes WP:NPERSON. DrStrauss talk 21:29, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. In addition to the Art News article about her, there is also a New York Times article. Here is one of the numerous Italian articles about her. Her father was Peggy Guggenheim's son, Sindbad Vale (1923–1986) (See this), and her mother was Peggy Angela Vail (died 1988). The two married in 1957. See Vail, Karole P. B. Peggy Guggenheim: A Centennial Celebration Solomon R. Guggenheim Foundation (1998), p. 78. ISBN: 0-8109-6914-9 Ms. Vail's bio and press release about her appointment from the museum points out that, in addition to the numerous exhibitions she has curated for more than two decades, she has written several publications: The Museum of Non-Objective Painting: Hilla Rebay and the Origins of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, was published in 2009 on the occasion of the fiftieth anniversary of the Guggenheim Museum in NY. Moholy-Nagy: Future Present, received an Honorable Mention in the 2017 Awards for Excellence of the Association of Art Museum Curators. Other publications include Art of Tomorrow: Hilla Rebay and Solomon R. Guggenheim and Peggy Guggenheim: A Celebration. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete Notability is not inherited in regards to the subject's relation to Peggy Guggenheim, and press releases are not viable Wikipedia sources. The Times article doesn't really tell much about the subject, and English language citations are always preferred for English-language Wiki articles over Italian ones. sixtynine • speak up • 01:30, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Beemer69 can you point to that in the guidelines or policy? I'm not finding anything that says Wikipedia sources for English Wikipedia should be in English. Thanks! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – A leading staff member and director of two eminent art collections satisfies notability requirements. In the absence of specific requirements for arts administrators, WP:NACADEMIC nos. 3, 5 and 6 might apply. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:28, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Michael Bednarek: that would be WP:NARTIST. DrStrauss talk 16:04, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep — In addition to the coverage cited above, add 2,204 word article primarily about Karole Vail: "Family affair", Town & Country, p. 57, June 1998 Word count: 2024. Vail's biography of Peggy Guggenheim Peggy Guggenheim: A Celebration. Guggenheim, dist. by Abrams. 1998. 151p. illus. ISBN 0-8109-6914-9, has significant reviews such as Binkowski, Carol J. (February 15, 1999), "Peggy Guggenheim: A Celebration", Library Journal, vol. 124, no. 3, p. 163. Peggy Guggenheim: A Celebration has been cited in:
    • Diva: Defiance and Passion in Early Italian Cinema. Angela Dalle Vacche. University of Texas Press, 2008.
    • Notable Women in American History: A Guide to Recommended Biographies and Autobiographies. Lynda G. Adamson. Greenwood Press, 1999.
    • American Culture in the 1940s. Jacqueline Foertsch. Edinburgh University Press, 2008. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The NY Times article says quite a lot about her professional work and scholarship. There are also a lot of Italian references. Passes GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep position and sources are clear pass of WP:N (whether academic or artist). There is no guideline that specifies English sources are needed. but we have plenty if someone wishes to interpret WP:V that way. StarM 02:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – the Peggy Guggenheim Collection in Venice is sufficiently prominent for its director to be notable. There is significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Verbcatcher (talk) 19:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As per Ssilvers and Megalibrarygirl subject has significant coverage in numerous reliable sources. Passes WP:GNG. Antonioatrylia (talk) 19:02, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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