Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karl Engelmann

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The result was delete.--Wafulz 21:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Engelmann[edit]

Non-notable musician. One of his bands is notable because it is a side project of notable Jake Cinninger, but he has not released anything significant to warrant his own personal page. In other words, Mother Vinegar is a bar band. RunLikeAnAntelope 15:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails criteria in WP:MUSIC.--Edtropolis 17:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep - Passes WP:MUSIC because he was a member of a notable band --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 17:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. subject appears to be a figure of questionable notability. The article is unsourced, and there are few reliable sources to support the assertions in the article. The most prominent hit is a myspace page, and the vast majority of Ghits for "Karl Englemann" clearly do not relate to the subject. 109 unique Ghits in English. There are references which indicate the subject wrote some songs for Umphrey's McGee, but all mentions are trivial. Ohconfucius 02:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I would change my vote if reliable sources were added to document the performance of his songs by Umphrey's McGee, which is a notable band. WP:MUSIC includes a criterion for lyricists: Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above, a notable theatre, or has been taken up by a musician or ensemble that qualifies above. EdJohnston 16:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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