Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kandy Wong

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (WP:NPASR). A merge discussion can continue on a talk page if desired. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:01, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kandy Wong[edit]

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Seems to be a not-yet-notable musician who has had some film/TV appearances. The person doesn't seem to meet any criteria of WP:MUSICBIO or WP:NACTOR. She may be up-and-coming, but up-and-coming doesn't qualify for a Wikipedia article — she must have already arrived. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:21, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. 13:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC) --180.172.239.231 (talk) 13:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e decker ^talk 05:57, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Pretty arrived in Hong Kong media (most frequently referred to stage name Tong Mui/糖妹), but possibly lack in English sources. Suggests referring also to zh:黃山怡 (herself) zh:糖兄妹 (group). --野郎院ひさし _{(talk) (contribs)} 05:54, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You are aware that local notability is irrelevant? A singer who has had only local coverage in Washington DC, for example, but not in nationally-published sources, will not get an article here. Sources should be at least regional, not just local to Hong Kong. I cannot read Chinese, but if the coverage is just Hong Kong, she certainly hasn't "arrived". ~Amatulić (talk) 18:05, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply There are also numerous sources in mainland China. ([1][2][3][4][5])@Amatulic:--180.172.239.231 (talk) 23:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First and last of those sources won't load (malware detected). The second is a dead link.

The third and fourth sources appear to be about the band Sugar Club, not about the performer, giving her only a trivial mention. That might mean the band is notable but those sources do not support inclusion of a Wikipedia article about the singer. Remember, notability is not inherited. I am not seeing non-local sources that provide significant coverage of this person. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:47, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The third and fourth sources appear to be about the band Sugar Club." How did you find this? The band is not even mentioned in these sources.@Amatulic:--180.172.239.231 (talk) 00:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Third source mentioned above, Google Translate has the phrase "sugar sister" which may be a mistranslation on Google's part. The fourth item talks about "sugar club" and nothing else. In any case, neither page contains the string "黃山怡" which is the name of the person. Therefore, without knowing the language, it is safe to conclude that these pages do not constitute significant coverage of her. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:07, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, neither page contains the string "黃山怡" which is the name of the person. That's right. Because these sources come from mainland China, you should search for her name in simplified Chinese rather than in traditional Chinese. The string "黄山怡" or "糖妹" does appear in each of the five sources. Full disclosure: I am Chinese and contribute to both Chinese wiki and English wiki. See my global contributions.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 02:02, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment She has won multiple notable awards, which seems enough for WP:MUSICBIO.(verified by [6])--180.172.239.231 (talk) 13:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Are any of those awards notable enough to have their own Wikipedia articles? Are the awards verifiable by the award source? And most important, are the awards applicable to the person, or the whole band? If the band won the award, that doesn't make the person notable for Wikipedia. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reality check Meh I know/care too little about contemporary mainstream pop music to actually say more than that indiscriminate comment. Striking !vote and suggest possible Merge with Sebastian Poon (AfD) to become the Sugar Club article, which probably make a better case with them awards that above (tries to) put forward. No objection to delete too. 野狼院ひさし _{Hisashi Yarouin} 04:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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