Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaitlyn Dias (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 03:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kaitlyn Dias[edit]

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Non notable actress - Found this, this and this however that's the best I've found however those are the best I've found, IMHO TOOSOON for an article, Fails NACTOR and GNG, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - no evidence of notability Kolma8 (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment- I have very less experience regarding notability discussions. Please excuse my lack of knowledge, but isn't playing a major role in a very famous film like Inside Out and winning a Young Artist Award enough for notability? Che (Talkin' Bout A Revolution) 10:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personally I don't believe it is, WP:NACTOR states:
1. Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.
2. Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.
3. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.
1 - The wording says "has had significant roles" ie not "had a significant role" and given Inside Out is the only notable programe she's been in I would say she would fail #1
2 - No idea on this
3 - You could argue the award is a contribution to that field of entertainment but personally I wouldn't say it's enough - If she'd won a second award then sure but to me one award isn't enough.
So personally I would say she fails NACTOR for those reasons, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for explaining. Appreciated. Che (Talkin' Bout A Revolution) 16:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I have always taken the actor notability guidelines to relate to live action roles, when we are talking about voice roles I always figure we need more there. In this case it is only one role, and that is it. Especially since it is just a voice role, it does not given her the recognition she might have gotten if she had had a significant role in a live action work. I am somewhat remined of the deletion discussions on Auliʻi Cravalho. However Cravalho has now had at least one other significant role (maybe 2 or 3 others, I am not sure if the role she had in a production of the Little Mermaid was significant, well she had the lead role, I am just not sure if a Live Concert TV special is really a significant production). Actually come to think of it, Carvalho at some point was certified notable as a singer, not an actress. With singers you really can get to be notable with just one song, because we have ways to measure song impact, also because at least in some cases there is one person singing the song, it is harder to become notable with one role, although if someone truly had a notable production where there role was basically the only one, we might consider it. Dias is not yet notable, and the fact that she has a bunch of insiginificant roles before and after her one significant one makes me not hold my breath on her becoming notable, she may, but it will take some future change that is not gauranteed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Dias is 21, so there are lots of changes for her to make it big in the future. We could list huge numbers of actresses who did not get a significant role until they were at least 23. However we can also list huge number of child and teenaged actresses who never had any significant roles as an adult. She is not notable yet, that may change though.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep My take on notability and having an article too early is exactly the opposite of what I see above. I love having the opportunity to read a piece on an up-and-coming young actress, and would much prefer that situation over waiting until she has in fact established herself more.--Concertmusic (talk) 21:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be disresctful but "love having the opportunity to read a piece on an up-and-coming young actress" doesn't help with the notability of the subject. The actress at present is non-notable and as such it would make more sense to delete and recreate at a further time when notablity is more established. –Davey2010Talk 20:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.