Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaden James

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The result was redirect to The A-List: New York. Deleted before redirecting. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:56, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kaden James[edit]

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no references, all links are to social media. claim to fame: one song used in a tv show, some music on rotation on mtv. no references that i could find. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can vouch that "A Boy Like Me" is the theme song for The A-List. I was able to verify that via a streaming video of the series. However, that part of the WP:ARTIST is kind of tricky in that if this is the only thing that can be verified in any way, it doesn't exactly give notability enough for an article unless there's other things to show notability. I will say that if we do manage to find sources for this, the article needs to be almost completely rewritten to be more encyclopedic and neutral. Right now it's reading more like a fanpage than anything else.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 19:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I cleaned up the blatantly promotional text. To be honest, that might've been a wasted effort since the notability scale is tipped against him. I'll see what sources I can find.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 20:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that I just discovered that the entire block of text was copied directly from James' blog and a press release, editing it saved this from being a copyvio.[1] I'm going to guess that this was all added by James himself or a publicist.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 20:12, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect to The A-List: New York. The only thing I can even verify through a halfway reliable source is that one of his songs was used as a theme song to the A-List shows. I can't find anything reliable or non-primary that verifies any of the other claims in this article. This is probably just a case of WP:TOOSOON since James is on the very cusp of being recognized, but has yet to actually be so. There's no reliable sources that I can find and a search on MTV's site doesn't even bring him up as an artist or a blip on the radar. While I know that sometimes the smaller musicians slip through the cracks, if he was playing on their station on a regular national basis at any point in time, his name would be in their website somewhere and it isn't. A redirect to the A-List article might be good, although there's two seasons, but I imagine that the first season would be the best one to redirect to. James doesn't pass the strict notability guidelines at this point in time, purely because there's no reliable sources to back it up and the theme song alone isn't enough to warrant an article. (Even in the artist notability guidelines it recommends that if this is all they're known for or can be verified, that they're just redirected to the TV show article.)Tokyogirl79 (talk) 20:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to The A-List: New York. As noted above, this person meets criterion 10 of WP:MUSICBIO, which states: "But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article." He does not appear to meet any of the guideline's other criteria, or WP:GNG, so redirecting to the TV show that uses his song as its theme seems reasonable. Gongshow ^Talk 06:01, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.