Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kabzaa (2022 film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 01:44, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kabzaa (2022 film)[edit]

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Kabzaa

This is an unreleased film that has no references and does not satisfy any version of film notability guidelines. A draft version, Draft:Kabzaa (2022 film), also exists. It appears that the originator is trying to game the system by making it impossible to move this stub into draft space. The draft has 13 references, and an assessment of those references will be provided later, but this should be deleted both as failing notability and as failing verifiability.

There is also history at Draft:Kabzaa(2022film), showing that the draft was declined twice. The draft should be retained, because the film will probably be notable when it is released. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:35, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:35, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:35, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I consider any issues in this article to be surmountable at this time. There are good sources demonstrating significant coverage here:

"Kichcha Sudeep to star in Upendra's period film Kabzaa". IndiaToday.

"Sudeep to enter 'Kabzaa' Sets on December 15". TechiLive.

I consider this as significant coverage as the sources I found are notable and verifiable. As such this article is likely to meet WP:GNG. Per WP:NFF the reliable sources appear to indicate principal photography has commenced, given that a well known Bollywood actor is confirmed as being on set. As such, the film meets the general principles set out in WP:NFILM given its sources, and hence satisfies the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. Granted, the article is new and its creator should focus on expanding it as time goes on. Such-change47 (talk) 03:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NFF does not mean that the moment principal photography has commenced, every film is automatically entitled to keep an article forever. That applies only to extremely high profile films such as the Marvel franchise, that get a lot of WP:GNG-worthy coverage during the production process, and not just to every single film that exists. The primary notability criteria at WP:NFO are the ones that apply to all films, and you have not demonstrated that this film passes NFO. Bearcat (talk) 17:14, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Changing my vote based on what @Bearcat: said. Not changing merely because someone else disagreed, but because I appear to not have made as strong a case as I thought. If this does not meet policy for unreleased films then it should go. I am not a deletionist however we do need to ensure consistent application of policy. Thanks also to @Robert McClenon: for pointing out my use of unadopted policy - Such-change47 (talk) 12:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Such-change47 appears to be quoting a proposed version of the future film guideline that was not adopted. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:02, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Creator tried to bypass the AFC process by just immediately copy-pasting this into mainspace without waiting for an AFC review, which is unacceptable regardless of whether the topic passes notability guidelines or not. Wikipedia process must be followed, which means submitting the draft for review and waiting. Bearcat (talk) 17:16, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Does not meet the criteria of WP:NFF yet. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:06, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete When I first looked at this (NPP) I thought draftify. It is a poorly resourced article, and to learn there is already a draft? Existing references tell this is going to be a very expensive film. It can go to deletion, does not meet WP:NFF. --Whiteguru (talk) 08:00, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.