Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juichi Wakisaka

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The result was speedy keep. Nom hasn't even bothered searching for sources so thus BEFORE wasn't followed, No objections to renomination by anyone else (non-admin closure) –Davey2010^Talk 15:29, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Juichi Wakisaka[edit]

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unreferenced biography Rathfelder (talk) 16:56, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - "Unreferenced biography" is not a sufficient reason to nominate something for deletion. As WP:NRVE states, "Notability requires only the existence of suitable independent, reliable sources, not their immediate citation. Wikipedia articles are not a final draft, and an article's subject can be notable if such sources exist, even if they have not been named yet." As WP:BEFORE states, it is the responsibility of the nominator to check if there are sources before nominating. A simple Google search finds that he is in some major motorsports databases: [1], [2]. And has articles on his victories in English ([3], [4], [5], etc.) as well as many more in Japanese ([6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], etc.). I do not know motorsports, so I don't know for sure whether he passes either 1 or 3 of WP:NMOTORSPORT or both, but given that one of the news articles I found above says that Super GT is the most popular racing circuit in Japan, his championships probably count. Michitaro (talk) 18:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a question of notability. The policy is very clear: "This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article." Biographies of living persons without sources are not allowed.Rathfelder (talk) 12:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If it was not a question of notability, you should have done this through WP:BLPPROD, but you can't because you can't use BLPPROD when there is even one external link that confirms some of the information in the article. This article does have such a link, to the Speedsport magazine database. Even the quote you give here is not applicable. It only says to delete contentious material, not entire articles. Is there anything contentious here? Instead of diverting the discussion, can you offer any arguments other than "unreferenced biography" to propose deletion. I've just added one reference, so if you cannot, please withdraw the nomination. Michitaro (talk) 15:43, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no objective test of whether material is contentious. The question is whether it is verifiable, and I don't see that a reference to a database constitutes verification. The assertions in the article should be backed up by references. WP:BLPPROD does not apply to articles published before the institution of the new policy in 2010 and it must only be used if no opposition to the deletion is expected. I have no desire to see the article deleted. I would like to see it improved. Rathfelder (talk) 22:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The subject appears to be notable, and the article is (minimally) sourced, so there is no valid reason for deletion. --DAJF (talk) 00:59, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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