Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Judith Grimes

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The result was redirect to List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters#Judith Grimes. Tone 20:55, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Judith Grimes[edit]

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Yet another entry from fandom. Zero real world notability. Nothing but mentions. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I will try to find sources today and/or tomorrow as I find the time. For the character's first six seasons she was just a baby/toddler, and while she was occasionally a plot device, she was most often just there. I do not think it is helpful to mention every time someone carries her around, for example? Those seasons can be summed up in two to three small paragraphs at most. That said, her appearances in the ninth season as an older child gained a lot of attention and I will go through them to try to find what I can to build a decent development/reception section. Season 10 just started, so there may not be much material for her there. BOZ (talk) 15:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Sources have been added to build up the development and reception sections, and I believe that this article is now meeting the WP:GNG. BOZ (talk) 21:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry, but that sourcing is brief mentions from the popular press--I don't consider that to be in-depth coverage. Drmies (talk) 22:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why this was tagged for deletion when there are WP:ATDs, onel5969? At worst, this would be a merge or redirect to List_of_The_Walking_Dead_(TV_series)_characters#Judith_Grimes, which it was originally. Alerting the creator of the actual article, AND722. Boleyn (talk) 15:32, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Boleyn - because I tried those routes (redirecting to list), and was reverted without significant improvement. Hence the need for a discussion. I honestly would be quite fine with it redirecting to the list.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:35, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, onel5969 :) Boleyn (talk) 18:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect - The current reception as of writing this now seems a bit improperly weighted, extending quotes to give sources more of a presence than the quote really provides. It is a pretty major show, so it might be that there are more meaty sources on the character. TTN (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No delete - I can find more sources and adventures of the character do not delete or redirect. Thanks.Tia Canita (talk) 11:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Well. Maybe next time don't do this, without explanation or edit summary. Drmies (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. There is some sourcing to allow one or two well-verified sentences in the main article. Everything else is just plot, of course--par for the course. Drmies (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge & Redirect to List_of_The_Walking_Dead_(TV_series)_characters#Judith_Grimes - Like Drmies said, the sourcing is enough to add a bit of referenced information to the character list, but not enough to support an independent article. Rorshacma (talk) 16:51, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.