Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Patrick Kennedy III

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. (X! · talk) · @111 · 01:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Patrick Kennedy III[edit]

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Does not conform to notability guidelines Pliny2010 (talk) 04:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This page does not conform to the Wikipedia notability guidelines and should be deleted or merged into the article for Joseph Patrick Kennedy II. The aforementioned guidelines require that a Wikipedia biography subject must be the recipient of "significant" third party coverage over a period of extended time.

The coverage of the subject in question, Joseph Patrick Kennedy III, has not been significant. This is evidenced by the small number of sources associated with this article. Moreover, the coverage cited in this article is mostly trivial. The first is a local article that is narrow in scope, the second is a mere mention of the subject's name in a social reporting piece, the third is a brief mention of the subject's name in an opinion column, and the fourth and last is a local article narrow in scope. These sources do not justify a Wikipedia biography.

Furthermore, the coverage of the subject cited in this article has been mostly concentrated around one period of time, namely the brief period in early September 2009 when his name was mentioned in limited coverage as a potential U.S. House candidate.

Lastly, as the Wikipedia notability guidelines detail, relationships do not confer notability. The subject's status as a minor member of a prominent political family does not justify a Wikipedia biography of his own.

Pliny2010 (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The article does not indicate that he has received significant media coverage yet per WP:BIO. If he does pursue a political career, or is otherwise repeatedly in the public eye, then an article about him can be created at that time. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Articles from Sept 2009 speculating about his political prospects are sufficient to establish notability. See Pols & Politics: A Kennedy in the wings Boston Herald and Kennedy twins Matt and Joe make party twice as nice Boston Herald Racepacket (talk) 10:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "But some say Joe K’s son, Joseph P. Kennedy III, could be the next pol from the famed clan" pretty well sums up why he isn't notable, particularly the "some" say and "could be" and "famed clan" part. Needless to say, any hint that a KENNEDY might possibly perhaps potentially carry on the dynasty is going to attract the interest of a Boston newspaper, especially on a slow news day, but that bit of might-could-be speculation doesn't amount to notability. Mandsford (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge To Joseph Patrick Kennedy II. Nothing here to justify a standalone article. Warrah (talk) 21:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Notability is not inherited. If his last name were "Schmidlap," and he did not have relatives named "Kennedy," the article would be speedily deleted. If he does something worthy of note and noted, an article could be created in the future. Edison (talk) 04:03, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a useful article about a person who people will seek information about based on the prospect of him running for office. Deleting is not necessary or desirable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feelingscarfy (talk • contribs) 16:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is an easy one and a clear delete. WP:INHERITED applies and the prospect of a possible future political career would mean that every young person in the US would be notable!! (See WP:ATA#CRYSTAL). In JPK3's case, such a career may be more likely, but he clearly hasn't done anything to "earn" notability, other than being born a Kennedy, which means WP:INHERITED applies straight out and the guidelines in that essay should be applied here. Finally, in response to the contribution from Feelingscarfy, above, WP:ITSUSEFUL discusses usefulness of information vs encyclopedic content and concludes that useful information is not always encyclopedic. Everything here points to deletion of the article. Wikipeterproject (talk) 21:41, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This article is clearly not congruent with the notability guidelines. Simply put, notability is not inherited. And there is nothing notable about this person except his name. If and when he runs (and wins) elected office, he may be entitled to an article; however, being born a Kennedy does not merit a biography on its own. TheAmerican04 (talk) 07:52, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.