Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Gatt

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The result was keep. Solid enough majority for keep; no need to relist this once more. (non-admin closure) – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 05:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Gatt[edit]

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Non notable bit part actor. Lacks significant roles in notable productions. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Prolific actor/voice actor that easily passes WP:NACTOR. I removed a defunct website from refs and added 2 interviews. Also note that article appears in no less than 8 other languages, with the Russian having a decent set of references. StonyBrook (talk) 22:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The actor meets our general notability guideline. Actors are known for their work, rather than how many times they were in the headlines for drunk driving, or other chicanery. I see some non-trivial coverage, Hollywood Reporter He also gets some attention for his condition: alopecia, The subject has a large body of work. Lightburst (talk) 00:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete being a prolific actor does not make one notable if none of the roles are significant ones in major productions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Chilling (talk) 13:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This actor passes the WP:GNG as a result of the sources and listing of films. The condition he has as well also gives him media attention. AmericanAir88^(talk) 11:47, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 20:26, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning keep. I would think that a large enough body of small work would be comparable for notability purposes to a small body of large work. bd2412 T 01:33, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete . Sources do not satisfy WP:NACTOR. A plethora of weak sources or bit parts does not compensate for a lack of solid, independent, in-depth RS, or major roles. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:42, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: WP:NACTOR criteria 1 requires that an actor "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." It seems accepted that he's been in notable films, but would like to see discussion of the significance of those roles. I don't think anyone is arguing that criteria 2 or 3 apply (but feel free to correct me). For WP:GNG arguments, I'd like to see more discussion of sources, as the existing references come up a bit short, IMO.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott Burley (talk) 00:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Looking at the series episodes he has appeared in of The 100 and Z Nation, for example, I believe that he has had significant roles. The 3 episodes of The 100 that he appeared in were the last two episodes of the first season and the first episode of the second season: Gatt's character commands a group and leads an attack on the 100. In Z Nation, Gatt played "The Man" in 6 episodes of season 3. Quoting from Z_Nation#Main_cast: "The Man first appears in the first episode of season 3, "No Mercy". Following a list created by his Zona employer, it is his job to collect people by any means necessary and ship them to Zona. He is ruthless and will take out anyone in his way. He is known to have completely decimated at least two survivor communities to obtain the people on his list. He has a perfect success rate and has yet to lose a target. As of the second episode of season 3, "A New Mission", The Man's current list contains only one name: "Alvin Bernard Murphy". His fate is unknown to the group following the season 3 finale, as he is not mentioned again." In Banshee, Gatt appeared in 6 episodes in Seasons 1 and 2, playing a man who served time with the main character, and, as one newspaper said, "was given the job of making his life behind bars a living hell", and the main character has flashbacks to that time after his release. These are not forgettable bit parts, they appear to be crucial to the seasons/episodes in which he appeared. I haven't yet checked all the productions he has been in - and I note that the article states "Gatt also performed in many musicals in London's West End and in national tours", but none are listed yet - but they are certainly enough to show that he meets WP:NACTOR. RebeccaGreen (talk) 09:27, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou for your well thought out comment. Unfortunately to me it comes across as original research. You seem to be presenting your personal opinion of what is a significant role in those series. My personal opinion is that they are not significant. Why, because of the lack of coverage around him and his roles. On the musicals, searching a newspaper database I didn't find any verification of that beyond a passing mention. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep He did play the main antagonist or at least one of two main antagonists on Cinemax's Banshee. His story arc lasted at least one season if not two. The show was well received and his role as The Albino was notable. I am sure if you google some combination of his name, The Albino and Banshee you will find a lot more coverage. Along with his other credits, i would vote to keep at the moment. ScienceAdvisor (talk) 01:52, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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