Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josep Raich

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 15:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Josep Raich[edit]

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Josep Raich doesn't appear to meet our notability guidelines. While the article includes some useful stats (in its infobox), it doesn't establish him as anything other than a run-of-the-mill player (per my admittedly limited understanding of European football). That said, geography articles of the same length are usually kept due to the inherent notability of their locations. Likewise, for such a stub (such as this) to last so long I feel that there may be a similar policy for non-living people, and thus have come for AfD to determine if there is such a policy, as well as decide if this article should be kept or deleted. ElectroChip123 (talk) 15:53, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:54, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:54, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:55, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 15:59, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. passes NFOOTY by dint of playing in Barcelona FC (which I assume was in a FPL back in the 40s) and other clubs, as well as a national appearance (didn't verify that bit myself). Assessing GNG for this period with online sources is a bit tricky - so I am relying in part on NFOOTY's presumed notability, however the subject does appear in [1] and [2] for instance. Icewhiz (talk) 16:29, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - clearly meets WP:NFOOTBALL, and I imagine meets GNG per few sources found above. GiantSnowman 08:03, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - article about professional and international footballer who is the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources (did the nominator even look at the linked Mundo Deportivo article?). Jogurney (talk) 13:51, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jogurney: First off, with respect to the comment "did the nominator even look at the linked Mundo Deportivo article?", this is the English Wikipedia, so forgive me for not being fluent enough in Spanish to understand them. Secondly, I would hardly quantify three articles as "significant coverage in reliable sources" worthy of inclusion in the English Language Wikipedia. As per the other comments, WP:NFOOTBALL is what actually saves this article from deletion, and thus I was correct in not boldly slapping a PROD on it. Lastly, I want to thank you for your contributions to the article itself, as they do help establish his significance to the (English speaking) readers. Warmest regards - ElectroChip123 (talk) 01:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think an editor ought to at least review the references included in the article before nominating an article for deletion. I realize Mundo Deportivo is a Spanish-language source, but there are plenty of reasonably-useful online translators available and even without that, you can see a Spanish daily newspaper dedicated a full page tribute in the 1980s to this footballer from the 1930s/40s (which ought to suggest a level of notability beyond that of a run-of-the-mill player). Jogurney (talk) 21:21, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of editors would quantify WP:THREE as WP:SIGCOV. Levivich 03:39, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Just because an article lacks sources doesn't mean that topic is not noteworthy, Josep Raich clearly had a pretty good career from what I can see and you're looking for sources in all the wrong places, post computer age biographies should be reviewed differently and google, internet search, etc is not a suitable way to analyse GNG specifics. Govvy (talk) 08:59, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As far as I concern Josep Raich had a good career so far, clearly passes WP:NFOOTBALL. --SalmanZ (talk) 23:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as he appears to pass the WP:NFOOTBALL requirements. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.