Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joker (2011 film)

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The result was nomination withdrawn. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joker (2011 film)[edit]

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~~Unsourced future film - fails WP:NFF. Has been previously prodded - was unprodded with no comment. Has had {{unref}} removed previously. PamD (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)~~ [reply]

Withdraw nomination: has now been provided with multiple references and although it's still not clear whether photography has started it seems notable and likely to materialise. PamD (talk) 08:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The Find sources provided by the AFD template in this case is absolutely useless. Ample sources appeare available through more applicable search parameters Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and continue improvements, or Incubate for a short while. Multiple sources speak toward this film.[1] With respects to the nominator, what began as a stub with no souring,[2] is proving quite easy to expand and cite.[3] Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I see no evidnce yet that the film is "confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography" as required by WP:NFF. One of the added refs, the one which mentions filming planned for 20 Jan to 20 Feb, is about a different film. PamD (talk) 23:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent catch. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With repects, the SNG NFF is not the final nor absolute arbiter, as both policy and guideline allow consideration of anticpated future events. But might you agree that taking it off of mainspace and placing it in incubation for continued work could be an otherwise reasonable option? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As an Akshay Kumar film, this is a high profile film. I interpret this interview dated jan 24 as saying filming has begun as the earlier news reports stated. ("Akshay Kumar is being directed by Farah's husband Shirish Kunder"). Kind of confirmed by this ("Shirish kunder directed ‘Joker’ is in the making") and this. There is enough GNG for us to keep this article. We can Afd it again in a few months, if the film stalls--Sodabottle (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ahhh... if filming has commenced, then we worry less about NFF and more about WP:NF. I agree with your reasoning. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 09:03, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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