Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Most

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The result was delete. Tone 22:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

John Most

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No significant coverage in wp:secondary sources to establish general notability or to assert a meeting of wp:creative Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

This is inaccurate. John Most meets not only wp:creative notability, but also academic notability, having edited a literary journal, call: review. This journal published the current National Book award Winner for poetry, Keith Waldrop and other notable writers. It is also in major collections,including the Library of Congress. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC).

In addition, what user: Omarcheeseboro also does not mention is that this article was approved by the WikiProject Biography and supported by the arts and entertainment workgroup. See the talk page for this article. Also from wikipedia: "The content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used first, such as listing on Wikipedia:Requests for comments for further input. Deletion discussions that are really unresolved content disputes may be closed by an administrator, and referred to the talk page or other appropriate forum." This page should not be deleted. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC). — Derekw22 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Comment There are also two articles about two of his works which could also be considered for separate AFDs, as lacking evidence of notability. Edison (talk) 17:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Comment: I'm neutral on deletion, but I just want to point out a couple of things. The talk page does not state that the article is "approved" by anybody; all it says is that it is within the scope of those groups' expertise/interest. Also, I fail to see how this is a content dispute. All edits to the article by Omarcheeseboro (talk · contribs) have been minor edits, cleanup, a merge from another article, and nominating it for deletion. A content dispute means multiple editors disagree over the content of an article, not whether the article merits inclusion in Wikipedia. Those discussions belong here at Articles for deletion. KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• DeleteThe individual does not appear to satisfy WP:BIO or WP:CREATIVE at this point in his career. Edison (talk) 17:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
• Delete The "little magazine" he founded has no presence on Google, and his books are self-published. He himself appears on Google only for this article and his home page and blog. Clearly not notable, at least not right now. --MelanieN (talk) 17:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

Comment: Correction, not "approved." The page says "supported" by the arts and entertainment work group. Yes, there are more than simply his own blog and website. His review of Pablo Picasso on the premiere online poetry journal Jacket at: http://jacketmagazine.com/30/most-picasso.html. The list goes on. His two spoken word albums are internationally distributed by The Orchard. From MusicStack: "Now, the spoken word has become as diverse as the people who perform them. Top-selling spoken word artists today include John Most, George Lopez, Ray Romano, and Paul Robeson, as well as Beat poets like Allen Ginsberg, William S Burroughs, and Jack Kerouac." http://www.musicstack.com/genre/spoken-word (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC). — Derekw22 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

I hate to tell you this, but I went to your link at musicstack, clicked on "John Most", and it took me to music recordings by the John Most Singers! --MelanieN (talk) 17:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)MelanieN

Comment: I'm not sure "Singers" fall within the spoken word category: see last.fm:

for top spoken word artists: http://www.last.fm/tag/spoken%20word/artists. John Most is there as well. http://www.last.fm/music/John+Most (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.172.215.236 (talk) 17:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Comment: A description on musicstack, charting on last.fm is not significant coverage in a reliable source --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 18:01, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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