Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Luther Schofill, Jr.

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Luther Schofill, Jr.[edit]

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Interesting but apparently non-notable person, film director and academic, lover of classical music. Nuujinn (talk) 18:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - the sources verify his existence and some of his work, but he fails WP:PROF and most of the sources are not reliable or independent. Bearian (talk) 21:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think a strong case can be made that Guggenheim fellows are per se notable. They are a discrete category of academics/artists thought by their peers to be at the top of their game. Vartanza (talk) 12:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment "Often characterized as "midcareer" awards, Guggenheim Fellowships are intended for men and women who have already demonstrated exceptional capacity for productive scholarship or exceptional creative ability in the arts.", from their website. Also, see the List_of_Guggenheim_Fellowships_awarded_in_1974. Would you say that these awards are based on prior notability or as a way of enabling recipients to do work that would earn notability? --Nuujinn (talk) 14:43, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I did a random sampling of the list of Guggenheim Fellowships and that a bit less than half are redlinked, going back to 1950, so I am not convinced that the fellowship by itself is evidence of notability. The remainder of the work - a published article, a few short films (the link to "Spurt of Blood" is incorrect by the way) just doesn't reach the criteria for notability. Seaphoto^Talk 05:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I'm not seeing adequate evidence that his filmmaking is enough for WP:CREATIVE, and while the Guggenheim is a worthy accomplishment I'm pretty sure it's less of an indication of notability and more something one gives academics to encourage them to be productive. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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