Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Jackman

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The result was delete. Books in libraries are no substitute for proper sourcing. Sandstein 08:28, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

John Jackman[edit]

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The wiki has almost no sources at all. It seems to be written by the subject, as many of the contributions seem to be done the subject himself, with a couple of usernames, including JJackman. This is not neutral writing. The lack of sources in this article, and the lack of notability for the subject make it seem unimportant and not actually viable for a Wikipedia article. Nathan Love (talk) 18:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:30, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep his books are held in over 2000 librarys worldwide according to Worldcat which usually indicates that reviews are available offline if not online. Any promotionalism can be edited out, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:21, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Extra time needed to find supposed reviews that @Atlantic306: suggested exists.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ミラ P 23:12, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. WP:NOTCLEANUP notable author per Worldcat. Wm335td (talk) 17:39, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. First, I don't think any part of WP:NAUTHOR is fulfilled by having works in 2000 libraries. Second, when I search for John Jackman, I mostly get results for other people (leading me to wonder what sort of WP:FRANKENSTEIN is being created in the world cat searches. Third, I found exactly 0 reliable sources when I searched for "John Jackman author filmmaker" on google. Rockphed (talk) 16:39, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked at it a little more, the two books (one has 3 editions) listed in the article are available in 475 libraries and 0 libraries. Atlantic306, can you explain finding his works in 2000 libraries? Rockphed (talk) 19:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- There are more than two publications, this shows more holdings here, having said that I haven't found any additional coverage on google Atlantic306 (talk) 19:07, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as non-notable. I tried to verify the awards, and none appear to be significant. Some are only for other parties who contributed to his films. I have cross-linked Newton's Grace to Wesley (film) as those are the only Wikipedia articles on his works. – Fayenatic London 11:23, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:CREATIVE, and WP:NAUTHOR.4meter4 (talk) 02:24, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.