Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John J. Powers (comedian)

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The result was delete. joe decker ^{talk to me} 16:42, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John J. Powers (comedian)[edit]

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Comedian of questionable notability. Speedied three times already (twice at John J. Powers (actor, comedian), once here) but one editor keeps recreating, with little change each time. References are all primary sources. Google searches show no evidence of Emmy award outside Powers' own promotional material - in fact, a Google search for "John J. Powers" comedian brings back less than 70 unique results. MikeWazowski (talk) 16:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He has over 10,000 fans. Also I took away the reference to the Emmy until I can, and I will, substantiate it. There are 2 of his associates on this site that have never been challenged. I feel you are picking on me. I have rewritten this completely now.Jkinzler777 (talk) 16:13, 21 July 2011

I have taken all the comments about the previously deleted article and improved this article. I also contacted two of the administrators to let them know I'm giving another go. Thank you all for the work you so. Jkinzler777 (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)--Jkinzler777 (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Also note that two of John's friends and peers have similar articles still standing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Kilmartin and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Ability. Jkinzler777 (talk) 16:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)--Jkinzler777 (talk) 16:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Could whoever is suggesting all the citations identify themselves so we can discuss it? I think that is too much citation.

First off, read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Second, your "rewritten" is practically identical to the prior deleted versions. As for Laurie Kilmartin, she appears to be notable, with writing credits on major network shows, along with legitimate press coverage. Permanent Ability appears to have some notability due to some of its members and a connection to George Clinton. However, as that first link should have informed you, this is not relevant to a discussion about Powers. MikeWazowski (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok sir, I see you are making this personal. I just wanted to write a good article, not be offended by you. I hope others will join in the conversation. --Jkinzler777 (talk) 18:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One of the "two of John's friends," Permanent Ability, survived a deletion discussion so it may not be fully valid to say that they have persisted without consideration for their notability. You can see who made changes to an article with the "view history" tab. VQuakr (talk) 22:27, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. — I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 16:44, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unrelated Comment Comedians don't appear to have an appropriate category for deletion sorting, so the above is the best I could do. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 16:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Related Comment -- Delete Arguing that he has "over x number of fans," using WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS type arguments and taking this personally is not supporting a case for keeping the article. Current sources are PR pieces, self-submitted content, the fact that he is a dating advice columnist, and bios on the places where he performs. These are not sufficiently independent and do not provide evidence of notability for entertainers. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 18:50, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. I have removed the last two paragraphs of the article that someone had asked citations for each sentence. Perhaps by starting small we can build this into a better article. Thank you Mike and Jethrobot for you valuable comments. --Jkinzler777 (talk) 18:59, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will continue my efforts to get this into Wikipedia, starting with improving the citations which in turn will hopefully prove he is wiki-worthy. Thanks again to all. --Jkinzler777 (talk) 21:12, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The subject appears to lack adequate coverage in reliable, secondary sources to establish a basic level of notability. VQuakr (talk) 22:27, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't know how much credibility to give this article. A prior version contained the statements "He was born September 1st, 1982 in Amityville, NY. ... John began his comedy career in Poughkeepsie, NY playing to crowds from the sixties and seventies." [1] Apparently the crowds had been sitting there since 1969, waiting for the headlining performer to be born. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability per WP:ENTERTAINER. Gurt Posh (talk) 08:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. —Gurt Posh (talk) 08:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No coverage in reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 14:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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