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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was BOLDly moved to Draft:John Bourgeois. Since nominator User:JimKrause is an SPA, and delete voter User:Sandals1 had only five edits to his name before !voting here, their participation must be given less weight than that of more experienced editors. However, this is an unsourced borderline article. If the article can be improved with sources, it can be proposed for restoration to mainspace. If it is not, it will automatically be deleted after a certain period of inattention. bd2412 T 04:05, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John Bourgeois[edit]

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Subject fails WP:NACTOR. Despite lengthy list of credits, notability not established. JimKrause (talk) 22:58, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:30, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes criteria 3 of WP:NACTOR as has made prolific contributions to film, tv and theatre productions Atlantic306 (talk)
  • Keep - Sufficient career achievement to pass the SNG for Actors. Carrite (talk) 20:09, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I have to agree with the nom's statement. He's apparently been in a quite a few things, but no notable roles to speak of and not a single reference (even an unreliable one) to back it up. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 15:29, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
he has had some prominent roles in films such as XMen and in a number of theatre productions and tv shows Atlantic306 (talk) 16:11, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
His role in X-Men: Apocalypse was a small one (#56 on the order of credits for the movie on IMDB). As mentioned, there are no sources to back up notability even for his work in theatre. The prominence of his roles in theatre productions as well as the relevancy of the plays themselves and the theatres is dubious. It should also be noted that a google search reveals bleak results (aside from actor sites such as IMDB, his agency and the school he works for) and an image search yields only a few results. Not that google results should be a determining factor, but even with his plethora of work, it gives you an indication as to the level of prominence and amount of recognition he has gained as an actor. --2607:FEA8:1160:4FD:4D58:B6CE:670A:BFDC (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you the nominator of the AFD editing logged out ? as you did the prod and then JimKrause did the AFD with his first edits.

Also do you know Bourgeois in real life or have some connection to him ? as you and the nominator have done little else but seek his deletion along with a different Canadian actor. As your ip is from Toronto are you part of the theatre set there? Regarding the sources they are hard to find but I am seeing prominent theatre roles in reviews but still searching for significant coverageAtlantic306 (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. An actor does not get an automatic free pass over WP:NACTOR just because roles are listed in the article — he gets over NACTOR when a satisfactory degree of reliable source coverage about him can be added to support the claim that any given role was noteworthy enough to count as an NACTOR pass. This is completely unsourced, however — but no actor ever gets to keep an unsourced article for any reason, and neither Google or ProQuest is turning up the depth or volume of reliable source coverage required to salvage it. Bearcat (talk) 00:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jdcomix (talk) 15:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Anoptimistix "Message Me" 04:10, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete There is a long list of credits, but a lack of major roles. I don't see how he meets WP:NACTOR and he certainly isn't notable as an educator. My google search found a lot of people with the same name and when I added "actor" to the search the list was short and I don't think the general notability guidelines are met.Sandals1 (talk) 12:55, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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