Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johannes Dyckman

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The result was keep. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:30, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Johannes Dyckman[edit]

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Not notable. --Michael White^T·C 06:23, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Johannes had an important role at Fort Orange ( Later Albany, New York) and was instrumental in maintaining 'law and order' for the Fort and the surrounding area. I think there is enough references to those matters to warrant the keeping of this short biography.

Stwainer (talk) 14:45, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, with a caveat. Per:
- Merwick, Donna (1999). Death of a notary : conquest and change in colonial New York. Cornell University Press. chapter 4; 218ff. ISBN 0801487889. (deepest coverage)
- Reynolds, Cuyler (1906). Albany chronicles, a history of the city arranged chronologically. J. B. Lyon. p. 89, 96. (two paragraphs)
- Cabot, John Stevens (1898). Peter Stuyvesant. Dodd, Mead. p. 144. (quasi-trivial, but establishes his historical role in the Peter Stuyvesant administration)

Official of the Dutch West India Company who took on a number of bureaucratic roles in Fort Orange. Apparently a nasty guy: "a man little liked, pettish, surly and malignant", who was later removed from his position due to "insanity"! (That's in Reynolds at 49). One caveat: I turned up at least two Johannes Dyckmans in my search, one of whom was a military officer. If any of these sources are about the other Dyckman (or Dyckmann), obviously my arguments have less weight. But I'm fairly confident that they're all about the grouchy administrator. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 16:45, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The first source contains a number of references, but none are more than a few sentences long, and they are all in passing. It would be hard to call it significant coverage under WP:GNG.--Michael White^T·C 19:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:29, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- He sounds as if he was a significant Dutch colonial official. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:53, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Nomination is entirely bereft of reasoned analysis and there is no sign of WP:BEFORE compliance. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 04:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes the WP:GNG. gidonb (talk) 00:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.