Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johan Persson (ice hockey)

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:31, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Johan Persson (ice hockey)[edit]

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The player has only played 47 games in the Swedish second-tier league (HockeyAllsvenskan). Notability seems to be based on the fact that the player was the top goal-scorer in the Swedish third-tier league (Division 1) in the 2010–11 season. The player does not appear to meet WP:NHOCKEY. Hey mid (contribs) 17:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - In addition to being the top goal scorer for his league, he also meets criteria #3 of NHOCKEY as a 5-year professional hockey player who has played more than 100 games in the professional minor leagues (50 games in Allsvenskan and 101 games in Swedish Division 1). Dolovis (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt that the third-tier Swedish league (Division 1) qualifies as a fully professional minor league. Hey mid (contribs) 17:29, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's your basis for doubting it? (That being said, I'd expect a league scoring leader to meet the GNG.) Ravenswing 19:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails Notability. One cite is not about him, but a list of awards where he happens to be listed. Other cite by itself does not create a case for notability. If he's so notable why isn't there more about him? Only things I can find on him are where he's listed because he won an award, nothing on him as a person. Caffeyw (talk) 06:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - While Persson may not explicitly meet WP:NHOCKEY (though if the Swedish Division 1 was discovered to be professional, that would no longer be the case), I believe the combination of him having played 50 games in the professional HockeyAllsvenskan (in addition to the 100+ games he's played in Division 1), coupled with the fact that he led the Division 1 in scoring in the 2010-11 season, is enough for him to meet WP:GNG. --Hockeyben ^{(talk -} ^contribs) 17:28, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- GNG is about the quality of sources, not what the person has done. Reso lute 18:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Leading a low-level minor league is not a call to notability. Likwise, WP:NHOCKEY presumes notability if certain criteria are met, but does not guarantee it. I can't find anything in either English or Swedish (through Google translate) that indicates this player has been the subject of non-trivial coverage. Fails GNG. Reso lute 18:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Looking through google at English and Swedish sources I have not been able to find anything that shows he meets WP:GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 13:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't meet any notability standards.204.126.132.231 (talk) 21:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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