Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johan Matton
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:03, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Johan Matton[edit]
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Subject is not notable; fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Article is promotional with exaggerated claims. For example, role in Side Effects (2013 film) was restaurant guest (uncredited) and Contacts, aka Everything's Gonna Be Pink has not been released. Articles about subject were previously deleted. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The person seems to be notable not only for WP:NACTOR but also as WP:NMODEL Male model scene. WP:Film please confirm. Jmanagement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmanagament (talk • contribs) 09:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC) — Jmanagament (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.Sockpuppetry confirmed by checkuser.—Kww(talk) 21:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]Keep - All of the references are reliable, except the twitter ref that could be excluded. The person seems to be notable mainly because of an active fan base of close to 1100 views per week of a web film "I have PSD" with more than 1.1M views and Vimeo's staff pick, Vimeo I Have PSD, WP:Film please confirm.Sockpuppetry confirmed by checkuser.—Kww(talk) 21:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Changingfilm, it is customary to sign comments in a discussion. The Internet Movie Database is not a reliable source per WP:UGC but is used several times as a source. According to IMDb itself, the subject's bio was written by him making it a primary source that is even less acceptable for establishing notability. Press releases are considered self-published sources, not acceptable for establishing notability. Views of a 2 minute promotional video on vimeo.com doesn't constitute "an active fan base" and is not helpful in establishing notability. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 12:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Subject is notable; and WP:NACTOR. For example, role in It is what it is seems to have given Johan Matton an award for best ensemble Changingfilm Join WER 10:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)— Changingfilm (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. (Moved this comment from above the nomination to here. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 03:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC))diff.Sockpuppetry confirmed by checkuser.—Kww(talk) 21:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]- Along with over 25 others in the ensemble cast of the musical, Matton received a prize as a member of that ensemble; it was not an individual award for him. The award was made by a little known film festival that has existed less than three years. A nomination for an individual major award like an Oscar or winning an individual award at a major film festival like Berlin would help establish notability; being listed as a member of an ensemble does not. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 03:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Changingfilm, it is customary to sign comments in a discussion. The Internet Movie Database is not a reliable source per WP:UGC but is used several times as a source. According to IMDb itself, the subject's bio was written by him making it a primary source that is even less acceptable for establishing notability. Press releases are considered self-published sources, not acceptable for establishing notability. Views of a 2 minute promotional video on vimeo.com doesn't constitute "an active fan base" and is not helpful in establishing notability. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 12:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep - The sources of Mr. Matton is in production of his feature film 'Till We Meet Again' and that he is playing the role of 'Host' in Everything's gonna be pink is in fact covered by the sources at IMDb. Till We Meet Again is in the Top5000 movies on IMDb and people might find it helpful to find out in Wikipedia who Johan is. Should have someone at someone at WP:FILM here. WP:GNG. I found IMDb and also another news page after another google search CWEB News — 176.70.231.210 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 08:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC). Sockpuppetry confirmed by checkuser. Pseudonymous Rex (talk) 01:40, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Most of the references are unreliable, including several from IMDB and one from Twitter. 069952497aComments and complaintsStuff I've done 00:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep - Most of the references are reliable, and the person seem to be notable mainly because of his own written feature film Yahoo News article interview Oncetherewasasheep 11:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)— Oncetherewasasheep (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Sockpuppetry confirmed by checkuser.—Kww(talk) 21:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I had high hopes to put a keep !vote here after looking at his website, but after searching for WP:RS, they just aren't there. Unfortunately for Mr. Matton, there just isn't any coverage to support WP:GNG. I found a FansShare article but not sure how reliable it is. Probably need an opinion from someone at WP:FILM but until then I still say this is a delete. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 02:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing admin: Please note the results of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Changingfilm. --Rschen7754 21:26, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 June 25. Snotbot t • c » 06:15, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Article has quality issues and does not seem to meet WP:NOTABILITY. APerson241 (talk!) 19:53, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per all the above - notability issues, reliable source issues, article issues, it's just a large mess. Dusti*poke* 19:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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