Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joanne Lyles White

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joanne Lyles White[edit]

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I'm sure she was a fine and admirable person, but there is no indication of her notability outside of her home region. Wkharrisjr (talk) 14:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I agree with the nom that she was likely an admirable person, yet there is a complete and utter lack of verifiable material regarding her in either news, books or scholar. Dennis Brown (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strike delete, stay neutral due to new sources being found. Dennis Brown (talk) 12:54, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment- Presidential recognition of Hope House of Central Louisiana which she helped found in 1989; WP:N for organization, not individual. Unable to locate verification of Sojourner Truth Award beyond 2nd reference in independent WP:RS. Charities not listed under Combined Federal Campaign, restricted to local notability or local chapter of larger organization. Awaiting further references... Dru of Id (talk) 15:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Nothing would make me more pleased than for someone to dig up some references, which very well may exist but simply be beyond my reach. I would be happy to strike my !vote above with the proper references. Sounds like a good person. Dennis Brown (talk) 18:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was submitted Mar 25, signed by the SoH and taken to SoS Mar 27. Good catch. Dru of Id (talk) 05:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep- HR13 establishes state-level WP:N recognition and assumes WP:RS WP:V Dru of Id (talk) 05:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep White's obituary was published in nearly a dozen newspapers in Louisiana. Her life's accomplishments were commended by the Louisiana House of Representatives. It appears as if her page is being ridiculed by a user who believes that referenced obituaries, news reports, and even an official resolution of the Louisiana legislature are not proof enough of the integrity of her biography. The user even asks for a citation to reference the number of children she had, as if her obituary, news reports, and the Louisiana legislature misrepresented this basic fact. User:Atowner — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atowner (talk • contribs) 05:10, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The request for a citation is more to specify from which source the information came from for verification. All items in an article should be referenced back to a source. —C.Fred (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm assuming the 'a' in 'a towner' is Alexandria? You created what is now, I think, a page that deserves to be included; it contained a lot of material, but her notability hadn't been established in a way that she merits. Articles aren't just deleted; they go through this process with the expectation that more eyes looking will find enough for inclusion, or that a group decision is to remove pending additional action, research and references. Notice that people worked on it. If you took this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Louisiana, you might get enough interest and assistance to make this a 'Good' or 'Featured' article; the potential is certainly there. At this point, we're all trying to ensure that (if, though that seems most likely now) kept, it is as good as it can be before people get drawn to other things. I, for one, am glad I've had the opportunity not just to learn about her, but to help develop the article, so I thank you. Dru of Id (talk) 05:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Thank you Dru of Id Atowner (talk) 06:00, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Looking at the article, there appear to be sources in place, and HR13 is enough to satisfy notability. I think the best course for the article right now is improvement and expansion. If the article can't grow after some time (like 3–6 months), then a second AfD could be in order. —C.Fred (talk) 05:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So my brother-in-law recieved a citation from the State of Delaware legislature in 1978 for earning a National Merit Scholarhip. Does that mean he has achieved notability also? Seriously though, does a resolution equate to notability? Politicians hand these out like candy for any possible reason.Wkharrisjr (talk) 20:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The resolution does not directly; however, IMHO, it's evidence of recognition, and a "widely recognized contribution" to one's field is a notability criterion at WP:BIO. —C.Fred (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep When your brother-in-law was commended by the Delaware legislature for earning a National Merit Scholarship, was the resolution a four or five page document outlining all of his contributions to the State of Delaware and calling him one of "Delaware's finest sons"? Because that would be unusual and noteworthy. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Read the Louisiana House Resolution. Moreover, you're assuming that any resolution of a State legislature is somehow insignificant because of something Delaware rubber-stamped for a bright teenager in the late 70s. Just read the source material. The fact that it was entered into public record is not the issue; notability is located in the specific language of the resolution. Atowner (talk) 05:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Duplicate recommendation by the same participant struck out. —C.Fred (talk) 14:23, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The obituary notice was a broken link when the nomination was made; the article has improved much for the inclusion of a working link. Notability outside of the subject's home state is established. Anarchangel (talk) 13:18, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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