Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jimmy Noonan

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The result was delete. Lack of substantial coverage in reliable sources is fatal. Stifle (talk) 10:09, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Noonan

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Doesn't meet WP:ENTERTAINER or WP:GNG. Nikki♥311 19:47, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —Nikki♥311 19:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. —Nikki♥311 19:51, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Needs some sourcing, but appearing in all of those movies is a good assertation of notability. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:10, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:ENTERTAINER says that he needs to have had significant rolls in several movies, TV, etc to meet the criteria. It seems to me most of his roles were small, such as "bouncer", "goon", "mover #1", and "delivery man" which I can't imagine can be considered "significant" by anyone.[1] Although I must admit that I've never seen Super Troopers, so I can't judge how big his role was in that. Nikki♥311 23:16, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article has been nominated for speedy deletion on two previous occasions, in both instances by someone who had a personal grudge against Mr. Noonan. Both times is has been quickly determined that he does indeed meet the criterion for a person of note. As Nikki311 notes, she has not seen Super Troopers, where he played a fairly large role as Frank Galikanokus. His bartender role in The Grifters was also more significant than it appears. Not having a named character is not always indicative of a minor role. Mr. Noonan is quite notable for his role at World Wrestling Entertainment, where he was a major public face of WWE for several years. Presuming Nikki311 is not a wrestling fan with a personal grudge against Mr. Noonan, and is sincere in her comments, I would suggest she spend some time familiarizing herself with the person behind an article before jumping to a hasty conclusion on an issue which has been decided in favor of keeping the article twice previously. User:noonanmark (talk) 18 May 2010 (UTC) — noonanmark (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- It doesn't matter that I haven't seen Super Troopers, as he still needs to have had "several significant" roles to meet the notability requirement and that is just one movie. Can you prove that Noonan was the public face of WWE for several years with a reliable source? Also, I did the proper search for reliable sources and looked up his roles in movies before I nominated the article for deletion, and I believe he doesn't meet ENTERTAINER or GNG. Just because an article doesn't meet the criteria for speedy deletion, doesn't mean it doesn't meet the requirements for AfD. Lastly, this user probably has a conflict of interest, considering his user name and the fact that he hasn't made any edits that don't relate to Noonan. Thanks. Nikki♥311 19:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - The solution is simple. The author of this article can provide references, thus proving notability. If notability is established, I'll vote to keep and so will others. Evalpor (talk) 02:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Let's dispose of the acting career as an indicator of notability. He has not had much in the way of significant roles. Even the role in super Troopers, claimed as the most notable is way down teh credit list. So the key to notability would be his role as a "major public face of WWE for several years". I can verify he was head of security. [2]. But in order to establish him as a major public face, I would want to see significant coverage about him in his WWE job. I don't see that. -- Whpq (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. As an actor, he's nothing special, and has only had one major supporting role. But as an "actor" on WWE, arguably he's a major player. Bearian (talk) 22:21, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Can you provide some sourcing for this? I was not able to find any substantial coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 22:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Major players in WWE are wrestlers, refs, commentators, etc. The head of security is rarely if ever shown on television, doesn't have storylines, and isn't named on-screen...it's like being an extra in a television show. Nikki♥311 05:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per everything Nikki has said. Plus the only significant roll was in Space Troopers by what I've seem so that's 1 significant roll which doesn't qualify an article and so what if he was the head of security they never show up on TV anyway.--Curtis23's Us al ions 18:39, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.