Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Hershleder

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Firsfron of Ronchester 09:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Hershleder[edit]

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Here we have the long-unreferenced BLP of a Tisch-educated filmmaker. The article lists a number of accomplishments: He's directed title sequences for two notable TV programs, a CMA-nominated music video, music videos for a few other notable artists, and a feature film that was screened at the Tribeca Film Festival. While all of this is interesting, even impressive, it does not seem to confer notability in the Wikipedia sense; Hershleder appears to fail the general notability guideline, as I was unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources, as well as the specific criteria at WP:CREATIVE. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 18:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Try running a Google search: [1]. The article could use a lot of work, but it can be saved. Qalana (talk) 22:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not with those results, it can't. Every single one of those hits is a trivial mention and nothing more. Some of those aren't even part of an article's prose. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:38, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GOOGLEHITS is flawed reasoning. LibStar (talk) 07:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:41, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:BIO. gnews reveals no indepth coverage [2]. LibStar (talk) 07:36, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment He's the director of Ash Tuesday, which is the subject of multiple independent reviews ([3], [4], [5]). I think it fails WP:CREATIVE only if Ash Tuesday is not notable itself. Nimuaq (talk) 12:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. The full criterion you're referring to is actually: "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews," emphasis mine. Given the scant reviews for this film, Hershleder definitely does not actually meet the criterion. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I don't know whether this article can been saved, but it hasn't been saved and it's an unreferenced BLP. The references seem to be passing anyhow. Cool Hand Luke 14:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. A Google News Archive search returns trivial results. Whether or not the subject passes WP:CREATIVE has little relevance when the subject fails Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline and when the article, an unsourced BLP, fails Wikipedia:Verifiability. Cunard (talk) 06:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.