Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jew goal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Glossary of association football terms#J. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jew goal[edit]

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Delete per WP:NEOLOGISM. Yoninah (talk) 20:57, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree to the solution raised by IZAK and others, below, to Merge and redirect to Glossary of association football terms#J. Yoninah (talk) 18:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Yoninah (talk) 20:57, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Yoninah (talk) 20:57, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Yoninah (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've never heard of this, I thought it was just something offensive someone made up but I read the article and sources and now I know its offensive but none the less has gained a lot attention and meets the notability criteria.PeteBaltar (talk) 21:08, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Pete, did you read the guideline? It says in part: To support an article about a particular term or concept we must cite what reliable secondary sources, such as books and papers, say about the term or concept, not books and papers that use the term. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Some of the sources do that. I could see going either way with this, honestly. There are a few sources listed already which discuss the term itself, its use inside soccer, and how racism and antisemitism are being tolerated by the association. I think this would be better served as a section in an article on racism in soccer, but racism in soccer is a mess. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:28, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and Redirect to Glossary of association football terms#J (where it already has an entry). There is too much fluff here that one wonders what it has to do with soccer, when it could be sufficiently summed up in three sentences in Glossary of association football terms#J. IZAK (talk) 12:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I disagree that it fails WP:NEOLOGISM - the sources in the article doesn't use the term "Jew goal", they discuss it, and the sources shows that this is notable information. Could be merged into Racism in association football or Glossary of association football terms#J, but I believe that should be decided in a merger discussion. Mentoz86 (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Meets GNG through multiple reliable sources. Sources definitely do discuss the term itself which makes me think nominator hasn't read them. As for merging, there's already too much information here to merge (especially if merged to a glossary type article which is meant to be brief), and it can even be expanded further through the sources in the article. Christopher Connor (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or maybe merge. The term passes WP:NEO and the WP:GNG with just the sources currently listed. However, I agree with IZAK that the article could easily be summed up in a few sentences for a glossary definition or into an article on racism in soccer. There's also potential for this article to expand beyond its current scope (real-life sports) and take on antisemitism in video games and social media. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Glossary of association football terms#J. Giant Snowman 12:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Glossary of association football terms#J.--brew crewer (yada, yada) 15:54, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi Yoninah: Of course you are allowed to "!vote" -- you are the original nominator, and quite often nominators go back on their original proposal and either withdraw their nomination entirely or agree to another solution, as you have done here. So go ahead and please indicate up above somewhere near the proposal itself what your final considered decision is. IZAK (talk) 15:52, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Glossary of association football terms#J - the current two lines on this term there seem to cover off what is needed. Fenix down (talk) 17:32, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect. Per Fenix and Ninja. --Epeefleche (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to glossary. It is possible to reference a microstub but it would just be a WP:DICDEF. Hack (talk) 09:06, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- How is three paragraphs (plus more in the sources) containing not just a definition but analysis a dicdef? Christopher Connor (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect - Any article like this one that starts off with "According to Urban Dictionary ..."[1] has problems since Urban Dictionary is the dictionary that anyone can edit. There are a few additional sources for the term Die Tageszeitung, Guardian, walesonline.co.uk. The term is nothing more than a WP:NEO and WP:DICDEF. The page was created 14 October 2013‎, after flanker Josh Navidi September 17, 2013 tweeting: "Even Man U can't finish a jew goal." -- Jreferee (talk) 05:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.